Ok, I have a 90 DA and I'm going to be doing a Turbo LS, BUT in the meantime I'm getting all my motor work done to build up to the turbo and handle it pretty good. Right now, my mods to my B18A are

CAI
2.5 Cat-back exhaust (no cat)
Full MSD ignition (6A Box & Blaster 2 coil)
Stock Clutch

I went to the track a while back and ran 15.506 with .3xx R/T, that was before the ignition and my camber bad in the front (3 deg. in).

My next upgrade is a JDM B16 Tranny that I'm getting this weekend... what kinda of clutch would you guys recommend... don't want nothing killer but something that'll do the job, Hopfully after the tranny install, my ignition, & a nice clutch I'll be high 14's... I'm also gonna install ES Inserts & installed new axles already too.

Anyway, thats that for now. What should my next mod be? I'm thinking about some cams but I don't know what would be good for me, I want to TRY and keep stock valvetrain, also need these cams to work when I get a turbo too. Anything crower makes that I can keep stock valvetrain but be a nice upgrade to up my top-end? I want my next upgrade to be cams and a skunk 2 IM... so let me here some tips and advice on this stuff... thanks for reading all my mumbling

 

action clutch. srd crank pulley. blox racing intake manifold. tuning.

 

spring for a vtec head.

 

Reaction time got nothing to do with your ET

 

Your title says next All Motor mod. Are you asking for Turbo or NA?

 

Yea I realized that after I posted... my mess up. I'm thinkin about turbo but I know my All-Motor is a definent.

Anyone have any good cam ideas? I don't want nothing super crazy but something thats worth the money and keep stock valvetrain

 

best bet to run on stock valvetrain is ctr/itr cams or maybe stage 1 cams...

 

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Anyone have any good cam ideas? I don't want nothing super crazy but something thats worth the money and keep stock valvetrain </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you're "upgrading" to a JDM B16 tranny (which is a really bad idea if you're going turbo) the first thing you should want to do is upgrade the valvetrain so you can turn the motor faster because you'll be running out of gear damned quickly with that trans. Fourth gear is done at under 100 MPH with the stock rev limit and a B16 trans, and that's too damn short for turbocharged.

Crower offers one set of LS cams that let you use the stock valvetrain, but they're a waste of money. Barely bigger than stock, it's a bad investment. If you want to stay LS, get the 402T's and crower's springs/retainers.

 

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which would require a pr3 or p72 head. Neither of which he has, but i can suggest that either would be the perfect complement to the b16 tranny your throwing in there.

 

Aight.... I was thinkin today. I decided I'm gonna do an NA project

I'm gonna be doing LS/VTEC w/ my B16 Tranny and B16 Head. Once I buy a B16 head (btw, I'm in the market for one now)... I AM gonna upgrade the valvetrain with crower retainers/srpings... and a set of cams, I'm guessing the 402T's someone meantion would be pretty good? Anyone recommend good cam gears that I'll throw on there too while I'm at it?

Now, about going vtec... what ECU would be a good one to use? I know also Robear Racing have that Golden Eagle VTEC Conversation which I'm gonna get. Is all I'm gonna need for the conversation is the ECU and Conversation kit or am I'm missing something there?

 

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If you're "upgrading" to a JDM B16 tranny (which is a really bad idea if you're going turbo) the first thing you should want to do is upgrade the valvetrain so you can turn the motor faster because you'll be running out of gear damned quickly with that trans. Fourth gear is done at under 100 MPH with the stock rev limit and a B16 trans, and that's too damn short for turbocharged.</TD></TR></TABLE>

To each his own on that statement I had a itr tranny on a 300 hp setup and loved it, all depends on what your wanting out of your entire setup and what setup you do. I am not a big fan of 120 plus mph races in the streets, and it doesnt seem like you want to break any mph quarter times.

 

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To each his own on that statement I had a itr tranny on a 300 hp setup and loved it, all depends on what your wanting out of your entire setup and what setup you do. I am not a big fan of 120 plus mph races in the streets, and it doesnt seem like you want to break any mph quarter times.</TD></TR></TABLE>

His car would likely be trapping somewhere between ~105-115 MPH with an LS-T setup. That's changing gears like 1100 feet out, which will kill your ET. An ITR tranny is different on a 300 HP VTEC setup where you can turn 8K just fine, and cross the traps in fourth.

402T's are a non-vtec LS cam. Go with the VTEC head, but turbocharge it later. You'll thank me

 

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His car would likely be trapping somewhere between ~105-115 MPH with an LS-T setup. That's changing gears like 1100 feet out, which will kill your ET. An ITR tranny is different on a 300 HP VTEC setup where you can turn 8K just fine, and cross the traps in fourth.

402T's are a non-vtec LS cam. Go with the VTEC head, but turbocharge it later. You'll thank me </TD></TR></TABLE>

Probably would thank you later, lol.... what kind of cams would you recommend for me than since I decided Ls/Vtec?

 

good cams for an all motor setup are not going to work well w/ turbo....

id say if you want to turbo later, than the most aggresstive cams you can get are going to be itr/ctr cams...

 

nah, i'm just gonna stick with ls/vtec for awhile.... so whatever cams for that is good

 

If you want any aftermarket cams than you might want to upgrade your valvetrain just for that extra assurance.

 

1st Mod: Ditch The B18a
2nd Mod: Boost
3rd Mod: Tunning

 

What header which you guys go with on LS/VTEC... gonna be DC Sports 4-2-1 or 4-1 header? Let me know what ya think... hopefully gonna be ordering some stuff this week

 

Hey man, you not getting my pm's or emails? Please get back with me about the axles or refund me my money. Thanks.

 

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if $$$ is not an issue, i'd go with smsp, an-r, hytech header, etc.

 

look if your going to go with ls/vtec you might want to think about your rod bearings. How many miles on your motor right know? If this is something that you are going to do then i would go with a itr valve-train and some itr/ctr cams, and i would go with a vtec water and oil pump as well, as far as header if you dont want to spend that much dough get something that works like jdm itr header. As far as ecu, and tuning i would go with a pr3 because you have are non obd ecu, right, and get it chipped for either crome, uberdata, or the new sh*t neptune. But your main concern right know should be a long term decision, because if you say this is for right now but later your going to go turbo, then maybe you should start building for turbo, and not NA, because they are 2 very different motors IMO.

But this is just my 2cents

 

I am gonna do LS/VTEC... turbo isn't on my mind anymore. When I pull the head to swap it out, I'm gonna redo the bottom end... APR Rod Studs, New Rod Bearings and new rings... if I have extra money by than, I'm also gonna get a nice set of rods/pistons. I ended up buying a DC Sports 4-1 header for my motor. I'm gonna end up upgrading the valve train & cams before the head even goes in and on top of all that I'm gonna get a nie ECU chipped and I'm gonna have everything tuned to perfection. Anyone else have some ls/vtec advice. to everyone so far

 

for pistons and rods you could go with some jdm itr/ctr pistons and make sure if you get rods you get them to ls length, other wise you will have some long term problems, i would just look for for some new ls rods and a set of ctr pistons, or if you cant find new ls rods you can get yours cleaned up at a machine shop, good luck and keep us updated.

 

.....give me a call if you need the hookup on clutch or crower cams.

I'm working at nopi now and have some special h-t pricing.....

 

Dropped90Integra....


Thanks for getting back with me, hope it all works out.