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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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what is it that makes nitrous the gas to use over any other flameable gas?


why cant you have an oxygen line hooked up the fuel injectors so that you get a shot of oxygen (reelie small shot) with the spray of fuel?

i know this may seem like a stupid question to some but it just popped into my head when the maintence guy at work was tellin me to pack my fuel lines with dry ice. yes its true they make a unit that holds dry ice and i guess the fuel lines wrap around the area where said dry ice is.......interesting i say!
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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Default Re: why nitrous? (davendonna)

Cheaper, safer and burns cleaner (in an automotive performance situation) than some other gasses. It also has alot to do with what happens when it does assist in detonation...if you look into drag cars, ethanol and methanol and other mixtures are used to make a car go extremely fast (atleast help in the combustion department)...but then again, the engines as they sit are good for one...maybe 2 runs if they dont explode on the first...with nitrous, you have a mixture in your combustion chamber that improves performance, doesnt require the tuning and upgrading that other gasses/liquids would require to burn, AND its relatively cheap to refill on a scale of things compare to some others. There are also temperature factors involved but i think you get the basic point...and just for future reference, nitrous does impliment Oxygen into the mixture...you wouldnt have Nitrous Oxide without Oxygen.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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nitrous oxide helps to cool the air/fuel mixture among other things....remember any gases injected need to be easily compressible...they cant be too dense....just throwing in some random gas (and i mean gas, not gasoliene) doesnt make more power.....
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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oxygen by itself is just plain too volatile...nitrous is a convenient carrier that's benign by itself, but still does the job quite nicely.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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Default Re: why nitrous? (hypnosisracing)

This is also a good explination from a medical website (lol, discussing car applications!)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In car racing, nitrous oxide is sometimes injected into the intake manifold (or just prior to the intake manifold) to increase power: even though the gas itself is not flammable, it delivers more oxygen than atmospheric air by breaking down at elevated temperatures, thus allowing the engine to burn more fuel and air. Additionally, since nitrous oxide is stored as a liquid, the evaporation of liquid nitrous oxide in the intake manifold causes a large drop in intake charge temperature. This results in a smaller, denser charge, and can reduce detonation, as well as increase power available to the engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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nitrous isnt flameable.

nitrous has a cooling effect along with the oxygen molecules is provides.

my engine looks like it has been steam cleaned from the nitrous i have put through it.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 03:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raceACCORDingly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
my engine looks like it has been steam cleaned from the nitrous i have put through it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

when my dad and myself swapped heads on our 351 late last year, i noticed absolutely NO diff in the engine being and cleaner (cylinder walls,heads, valve train) than anything else that has had its oil changed properly/regular mainenance*.
and we have ran..heck, i dont even know how many bottles of nitrous weve been through and weve never ran less than 150 hp (never more either).

and in all my readings on nitrous ive never seen anything that said it cleaned your engine.

got proof of that (article that backs you up) or not?
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raceACCORDingly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nitrous isnt flameable...</TD></TR></TABLE>That's just a matter of semantics. At combustion temperatures, it becomes an oxidizer. It dissociates, liberating nitrogen and oxygen.
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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right on.....i love hills and the top youuuuuu jjjjjjjjust bbbbbbarley get the tire's an 1/8 inch off the road wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee dogggggggggggggyyyyyyyyyyyyy LOVE THOSE WHOOPI WHOO'S
75/80 does er right on the hills on the way to work
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davendonna &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">right on.....i love hills and the top youuuuuu jjjjjjjjust bbbbbbarley get the tire's an 1/8 inch off the road wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee dogggggggggggggyyyyyyyyyyyyy LOVE THOSE WHOOPI WHOO'S
75/80 does er right on the hills on the way to work</TD></TR></TABLE>

huh??
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by davendonna &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">right on.....i love hills and the top youuuuuu jjjjjjjjust bbbbbbarley get the tire's an 1/8 inch off the road wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee dogggggggggggggyyyyyyyyyyyyy LOVE THOSE WHOOPI WHOO'S
75/80 does er right on the hills on the way to work</TD></TR></TABLE>

what the hell did you just say?
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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going over hills real fast will make ur car get air and i like it
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 10:14 AM
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TROLL!!!!111!11!1!!!1!1!OMGZORS!1!1!!!1!!!!
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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in case you havnt figured out ( or havnt seen his previous posts), davendonna is a dumbass.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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well....... that was not asked for and sence i was just makin a joke about ur quote."and ur a ******* dueche-bag you ******* ******!!
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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how bout you quit whackin off to anime and get a GF
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 11:51 AM
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Holy **** you cant spell.
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 11:55 AM
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Thank you for re-inforcing my statement.

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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JimBlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's just a matter of semantics. At combustion temperatures, it becomes an oxidizer. It dissociates, liberating nitrogen and oxygen.
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well i meant nitrous in its natural state (i.e straight from the bottle isnt flamable).

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mac_24_seven &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

when my dad and myself swapped heads on our 351 late last year, i noticed absolutely NO diff in the engine being and cleaner (cylinder walls,heads, valve train) than anything else that has had its oil changed properly/regular mainenance*.
and we have ran..heck, i dont even know how many bottles of nitrous weve been through and weve never ran less than 150 hp (never more either).

and in all my readings on nitrous ive never seen anything that said it cleaned your engine.

got proof of that (article that backs you up) or not?</TD></TR></TABLE>

no proof but experience, when i took my head off and saw it. maybe my engine has just been really maintained but it looked like it was steam cleaned.
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 03:53 AM
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my car accord 1990 auto 4door
my emission failed 6 times because nitrogen is too high two times normal.
EGR, pcv,plugs,fuel filter,airfilter all have been replaced what may be problem
you think can you help me as I have to go again for test.
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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go to your local autozone, kragens, schucks, etc.. and get a bottle of the Pass Smog Test stuff. i have read on a few boards where it actually worked.
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