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Old May 20, 2005 | 03:07 PM
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Default OK guys, All BS aside, what is better?

LSVTEC or a B series to drop in my 92 hatch.

I currently have the block and transmission from a 1990 Integra (B18a1). I am starting to think dropping the B series engine is going to be less of a hassle. I can pick up a swap for ~2500 bucks.

But on the other hand, I should make more power with the LSVTEC. I was considering the following setup:
B18a1 block - polished crank, shot peened rods, etc..
GSR head - stock internals for now
Using the cable transmission from the Integra

After doing a few months of research, the LSVTEC is getting to be more expensive than I thought. I will need to buy:
Oil pump - $100
Water pump - $100
Timing belt - $30
Rod and main bearings - $100
ARP bolts - $100
VTEC dizzy - $175
VTEC solenoid - $200
VTEC conversion kit - $240
GSR head - $600
Pistons - $400

I know I am probably missing some stuff too...

I can get it assembled for $800 from a pretty reputable joint. But is it really worth it? I'm getting really disgusted because I already yanked the Integra motor out and it's sitting in my garage now.

Can someone provide me with some insight/experience? I'd really appreciate it.
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Old May 20, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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Default Re: OK guys, All BS aside, what is better? (habla_punta)

LS is a b-series...so your asking if you should buy a whole complete vtec swap for $2500? what swap a B16A or B18C? It would be easier to go with a complete swap than build an LS vtec for sure...but, if put together right; an lsvtec will be faster..
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Old May 20, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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Default Re: OK guys, All BS aside, what is better? (1.6i)

Sorry guys, it will be a B16a. I'm so friggin frustrated...

I was so enthused to build the LSVTEC. I picked up an engine stand and an engine hoist, thinking I could do it myself. I seriously don't trust myself to build this sort of thing after doing the research. I want something that is reliable, but not necessarily a daily driver. Upstate NY roads and weather suck ***.

Convince me.
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Old May 20, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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Default Re: OK guys, All BS aside, what is better? (habla_punta)

just go with that B16A swap make sure its a hydro trans.....you'll love the power..after that you could build your lsvtec yourself laterlater....
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Old May 20, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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Default Re: OK guys, All BS aside, what is better? (habla_punta)

im pretty sure you can find a gsr head w/ dizzy, vtech solenoid for about ~600
also if your thinking getting pistons you might wanna sleeve the block while your in there, unless you don't plan on sleeving, but if you do itll save a lot of money and time
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Old May 20, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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Default Re: OK guys, All BS aside, what is better? (HondaIntegraR)

Link?

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Old May 20, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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Default Re: OK guys, All BS aside, what is better? (habla_punta)

go ls/vtec!! i have a b16 with ctr cams and i found a running ls/vtec for 2200. when i get all the parts together ill have an extra b16 head. what shop u find?upstate ny?
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Old May 20, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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Default Re: OK guys, All BS aside, what is better? (greeneyehatch)

It's a place in Poughkeepsie, Visions of Speed. They actually tried to spin me away from the LSVTEC, saying 'you aren't going to make any power with that'. They're really into boost...
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Old May 20, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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Default Re: OK guys, All BS aside, what is better? (greeneyehatch)

How much for the head and what does it come with?
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Old May 20, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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Default Re: OK guys, All BS aside, what is better? (habla_punta)

really? i was going to give them a call,i heard they're into boost, but so what?they just trying to get u to go to the dark side!!!lol
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Old May 20, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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Default Re: OK guys, All BS aside, what is better? (greeneyehatch)

werd.

You have a head you want to sell?
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Old May 20, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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Default Re: OK guys, All BS aside, what is better? (greeneyehatch)

hey!! check your pm!!
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Old May 20, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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Default Re: OK guys, All BS aside, what is better? (greeneyehatch)

can you send to mike.aldrich@gmail.com

i really am a n00b...
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Old May 20, 2005 | 04:34 PM
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Default Re: OK guys, All BS aside, what is better? (habla_punta)

go to your profile at the top of the page. then to pm
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Old May 20, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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Default Re: OK guys, All BS aside, what is better? (habla_punta)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by habla_punta &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's a place in Poughkeepsie, Visions of Speed. They actually tried to spin me away from the LSVTEC, saying 'you aren't going to make any power with that'. They're really into boost...</TD></TR></TABLE>If they have enough knowledge to say a comment like that, i wouldnt have enough confidence to go there...and Ls-vtecs can make power if built properly like stated. My 2 cents...
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Old May 20, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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Default Re: OK guys, All BS aside, what is better? (drchulo)

You're in NY..can you recommend someone?
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Old May 20, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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Default Re: OK guys, All BS aside, what is better? (habla_punta)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by habla_punta &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're in NY..can you recommend someone?</TD></TR></TABLE>Nrg-tech by far
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Old May 20, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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Default Re: OK guys, All BS aside, what is better? (drchulo)

Location?

Link?
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Old May 20, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by habla_punta &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Location?

Link?</TD></TR></TABLE>http://www.nrgtechracing.com/contact_us/index.html
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