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Old May 18, 2005 | 09:54 PM
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right now im running a lot of boost and its all over the road when I get into it in 3rd and 4th. Is this normal? setup is b16 tranny with quaife lsd, es mount inserts, and skunk2 drag springs. Im yet to hook up my low boost switch so im stuck with all this power .

Im going to put on my traction bars and get a full alignment done soon... might make a difference?

Just wondering what hp's some of you other guys run SAFELY on the street and if there is a way to improve it. Its great having a fast car, but if you cant control it its a little scary...



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Old May 18, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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Bad toe out will definetly do that.

...and a safer way to run on the street would be to just stay of the throtal...

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Old May 18, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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425 is not that much for the streets. Stay off the throttle ;-). I know you can't help it..but keep it at the track.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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ive had the car for almost three years and never had an alignment done so ill take care of that before I start messing with other stuff.

and yah when im not getting on it its fine
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Old May 19, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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my car was more fun with 400 horsepower than with 500 horsepower on the street. i think 400 is the magic number for a street car...but thats just my opinion.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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650 on the street and love it...No such thing as too much power, if you can keep the car under control..Wherever you feel uncomfortable stop..

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Old May 19, 2005 | 08:43 AM
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I think 400hp on the street is perfect. It can be a bit much, but it's really fun getting it out on the open road.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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I think ~350-400whp is perfect for the streets, that is if you want to hooked for sure by 4th. With ~350 and a light chassis you might be able to semi-hook in third with some decent tires (just nothing really shitty). Don't get me wrong though either, up until now we only drove around on higher boost (28lbs+) and it's awesome, but you don't move anywhere. With 700whp+ it doesn't take anything to break 5th gear loose at 100mph (as well as all the gears below)... and well yea, that's sort of pointless! The thing is, if you're driving strictly on race gas, why not just keep the boost up? Aghh, it's kind of a lose-lose situation. Just my $0.02 though.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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Didn't really read your post as thoroughly as I should have the first time but yes, you wouldn't believe how much an alignment helps (if you're currently off). It makes all the difference in the world, especially if you're boost up on "groovy" freeways (okay, that's stupid but we've done it before).

This definately isn't needed and I'm sure most of you have seen it before since I made it last year, but it's just a few of the cars that Scott and I have built playing on the freeway (none of them were on full boost at any point, but towards the end they were on really low boost since we had just switched to manual XS dual stage boost controllers)!

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Old May 19, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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stay in the middle lane so you dont curb it during shifts
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Old May 19, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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Use better tires, something more sticky.

Or go with wider tires such as 215/40/16.
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Old May 19, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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350-375hp is what I've had the most fun with on the street. Definitely get an alignment, but I don't see the traction bars making that big of a difference on the street. Blowing the tires off at 100 mph is cool and all, but it gets old. You should be able to hook up 350-375hp in 3rd and 4th gears though.

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Old May 20, 2005 | 06:49 AM
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The reason the car pulls is i bet because of the tires. Radials torque steer like hell. Put a set of M and H DOT's on there and i garuntee that youll be able to hook 450whp and drive it with one hand no problem.
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Old May 20, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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My car was really fun and semi controllable at like 350 ish on the street. once getting 400+ it just gets sick. lol.
Fun , but struggle big time for traction even in 5th on the highway. lol
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Old May 20, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cpforyou &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Use better tires, something more sticky.

Or go with wider tires such as 215/40/16. </TD></TR></TABLE>

225/50/15 isn't wide enough? they stick 1" out of my fenders... I think im gonna give the m&h DOT's a shot next.
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Old May 20, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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m&h dots
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Old May 20, 2005 | 03:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22 civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">m&h dots </TD></TR></TABLE>

Im using them will be getting another set.
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Old May 20, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dunkd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">right now im running a lot of boost and its all over the road when I get into it in 3rd and 4th. Is this normal? setup is b16 tranny with quaife lsd, es mount inserts, and skunk2 drag springs. Im yet to hook up my low boost switch so im stuck with all this power .

Im going to put on my traction bars and get a full alignment done soon... might make a difference?

Just wondering what hp's some of you other guys run SAFELY on the street and if there is a way to improve it. Its great having a fast car, but if you cant control it its a little scary...

Modified by dunkd at 11:50 PM 5/19/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hi Dunkd,

You need 8.7-25-13 for the track. DOT's you need P235-60-15.

John @ M&H Tires
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Old May 21, 2005 | 05:14 PM
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Im thinking its your alignment. Im running bfg traction t/a tires on my crx and i can hook by top of 3rd gear. Ive ran 11.5 on the setup with the slick blowing out down the track. So I know what you mean when you say the car gets squirelly (sp). When Im on the street the cars stays pretty straight. But now Im curious if the dot will be better for hooking on street as well. I still say get the alignment and go from there.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dunkd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Just wondering what hp's some of you other guys run SAFELY on the street and if there is a way to improve it. Its great having a fast car, but if you cant control it its a little scary...

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How about one of those LED signs in front of your car and hook it up to an RPM Activated Switch. When you hit full boost, make the sign light up and say "GET OUT OF MY WAY! BOOSTED CAR COMING THROUGH!"

Making it safer for the streets? You warned them right? =D
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