Transmission whining and metal-to-metal sounds?
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Transmission whining and metal-to-metal sounds?
Alright I've searched and all the results pretty much danced around what ive been feeling with my transmission. I have an EJ1 with a 5 speed d16z6.
Heres the problem(s): When my car is idling (clutch out, in neutral) it will make a grindy, whirring sound. When i push in the clutch, the sound stops.
When im slowing down, and downshift into 1st gear, the transmission whines loudly.
Also when i push it a bit (not launching), in first gear it will sound rather normal until about 3-3.5krpm; it then makes a haggard *** grinding noise (almost sounds like a loose bolt rattling very fast, but im almost sure its in the transmission) which happens 70% of the time. The other times it will sound smooth and deep like it should.
Other people's symtoms and remedies are close but not as specific. Any thoughts? TIA.
Heres the problem(s): When my car is idling (clutch out, in neutral) it will make a grindy, whirring sound. When i push in the clutch, the sound stops.
When im slowing down, and downshift into 1st gear, the transmission whines loudly.
Also when i push it a bit (not launching), in first gear it will sound rather normal until about 3-3.5krpm; it then makes a haggard *** grinding noise (almost sounds like a loose bolt rattling very fast, but im almost sure its in the transmission) which happens 70% of the time. The other times it will sound smooth and deep like it should.
Other people's symtoms and remedies are close but not as specific. Any thoughts? TIA.
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Re: Transmission whining and metal-to-metal sounds? (JDCiv)
sounds like a couple seperate problems
1) throwout bearing (80%) or pilot bearing (20%)
2) dont downshift into first while moving.
3) could be a few different things, id consider a trans flush as step 1.
1) throwout bearing (80%) or pilot bearing (20%)
2) dont downshift into first while moving.
3) could be a few different things, id consider a trans flush as step 1.
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Re: Transmission whining and metal-to-metal sounds? (Kamin)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kamin »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds like a couple seperate problems
1) throwout bearing (80%) or pilot bearing (20%)
2) dont downshift into first while moving.
3) could be a few different things, id consider a trans flush as step 1. </TD></TR></TABLE>
if it was the throwout bearing it should be making hte sound non stop even if the clutch is out
1) throwout bearing (80%) or pilot bearing (20%)
2) dont downshift into first while moving.
3) could be a few different things, id consider a trans flush as step 1. </TD></TR></TABLE>
if it was the throwout bearing it should be making hte sound non stop even if the clutch is out
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Re: Transmission whining and metal-to-metal sounds? (komat)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by komat »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if it was the throwout bearing it should be making hte sound non stop even if the clutch is out</TD></TR></TABLE>
honestly its only noticable at idle alot of the time. once you add engine and road noises its very very hard to hear.
honestly its only noticable at idle alot of the time. once you add engine and road noises its very very hard to hear.
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Re: Transmission whining and metal-to-metal sounds? (Anosa)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Anosa »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have this exact same thing, and its hard to downshift to first... 
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There is a reason for this. HONDAS DO NOT LIKE IT WHEN YOU DOWNSHIFT INTO FIRST WHILE MOVING! The tranny's just don't do well with 1st gear down shifts. Most tranny's don't though. Ever noticed how first gear is very short? Most of the time first gear is geared to short and when downshifting you will make the tranny "over rev stressing it and causing damage. It's just to low of a gear to drop into when moving.
</TD></TR></TABLE>There is a reason for this. HONDAS DO NOT LIKE IT WHEN YOU DOWNSHIFT INTO FIRST WHILE MOVING! The tranny's just don't do well with 1st gear down shifts. Most tranny's don't though. Ever noticed how first gear is very short? Most of the time first gear is geared to short and when downshifting you will make the tranny "over rev stressing it and causing damage. It's just to low of a gear to drop into when moving.
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Re: Transmission whining and metal-to-metal sounds? (JDCiv)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDCiv »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alright I've searched and all the results pretty much danced around what ive been feeling with my transmission. I have an EJ1 with a 5 speed d16z6.
Heres the problem(s): When my car is idling (clutch out, in neutral) it will make a grindy, whirring sound. When i push in the clutch, the sound stops.
When im slowing down, and downshift into 1st gear, the transmission whines loudly.
Also when i push it a bit (not launching), in first gear it will sound rather normal until about 3-3.5krpm; it then makes a haggard *** grinding noise (almost sounds like a loose bolt rattling very fast, but im almost sure its in the transmission) which happens 70% of the time. The other times it will sound smooth and deep like it should.
Other people's symtoms and remedies are close but not as specific. Any thoughts? TIA. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i hav the same problem, i bought a new tranny for 300$, still didnt get it installed yet though...
Heres the problem(s): When my car is idling (clutch out, in neutral) it will make a grindy, whirring sound. When i push in the clutch, the sound stops.
When im slowing down, and downshift into 1st gear, the transmission whines loudly.
Also when i push it a bit (not launching), in first gear it will sound rather normal until about 3-3.5krpm; it then makes a haggard *** grinding noise (almost sounds like a loose bolt rattling very fast, but im almost sure its in the transmission) which happens 70% of the time. The other times it will sound smooth and deep like it should.
Other people's symtoms and remedies are close but not as specific. Any thoughts? TIA.
</TD></TR></TABLE>i hav the same problem, i bought a new tranny for 300$, still didnt get it installed yet though...
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throw out bearings run all the time?
mine has the EXACT same problem as his accept no shifting to first and the noise starts at around 2500rpm.. and it does it %99 of the time.. if it doesnt as soon as i downshift it comes back
so throw out or pilot?
either way, how much are these badboys.. and anyone got a faq on how to replace?
should be stickied, seems to be a very very common problem with z6's
mine has the EXACT same problem as his accept no shifting to first and the noise starts at around 2500rpm.. and it does it %99 of the time.. if it doesnt as soon as i downshift it comes back
so throw out or pilot?
either way, how much are these badboys.. and anyone got a faq on how to replace?
should be stickied, seems to be a very very common problem with z6's
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Re: (Morning Call)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Morning Call »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">throw out bearings run all the time?
mine has the EXACT same problem as his accept no shifting to first and the noise starts at around 2500rpm.. and it does it %99 of the time.. if it doesnt as soon as i downshift it comes back
so throw out or pilot?
either way, how much are these badboys.. and anyone got a faq on how to replace?
yeah one of those posts with pics on how to change tranny would be great....i still havent gotten the tranny i bought installed yet...
and when im trying to look cool cruising it makes that grinding noise and it's not so cool anymore haha
should be stickied, seems to be a very very common problem with z6's</TD></TR></TABLE>
mine has the EXACT same problem as his accept no shifting to first and the noise starts at around 2500rpm.. and it does it %99 of the time.. if it doesnt as soon as i downshift it comes back
so throw out or pilot?
either way, how much are these badboys.. and anyone got a faq on how to replace?
yeah one of those posts with pics on how to change tranny would be great....i still havent gotten the tranny i bought installed yet...
and when im trying to look cool cruising it makes that grinding noise and it's not so cool anymore haha
should be stickied, seems to be a very very common problem with z6's</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: (Morning Call)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Morning Call »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">throw out bearings run all the time?
mine has the EXACT same problem as his accept no shifting to first and the noise starts at around 2500rpm.. and it does it %99 of the time.. if it doesnt as soon as i downshift it comes back
so throw out or pilot?
either way, how much are these badboys.. and anyone got a faq on how to replace?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah one of those posts with pics on how to change tranny would be great....i still havent gotten the tranny i bought installed yet...
and when im trying to look cool cruising it makes that grinding noise and it's not so cool anymore haha
should be stickied, seems to be a very very common problem with z6's
mine has the EXACT same problem as his accept no shifting to first and the noise starts at around 2500rpm.. and it does it %99 of the time.. if it doesnt as soon as i downshift it comes back
so throw out or pilot?
either way, how much are these badboys.. and anyone got a faq on how to replace?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah one of those posts with pics on how to change tranny would be great....i still havent gotten the tranny i bought installed yet...
and when im trying to look cool cruising it makes that grinding noise and it's not so cool anymore haha
should be stickied, seems to be a very very common problem with z6's
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Re: (Jay-Dee-Em)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jay-Dee-Em »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yeah one of those posts with pics on how to change tranny would be great....i still havent gotten the tranny i bought installed yet...
and when im trying to look cool cruising it makes that grinding noise and it's not so cool anymore haha
should be stickied, seems to be a very very common problem with z6's</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here:
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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=644885
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=811691
yeah one of those posts with pics on how to change tranny would be great....i still havent gotten the tranny i bought installed yet...
and when im trying to look cool cruising it makes that grinding noise and it's not so cool anymore haha
should be stickied, seems to be a very very common problem with z6's</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=596873 This is the one you want
.https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=644885
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=811691
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