How far can i drive with out tuning. Dyno 90 miles away. (yes i have searched)

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Old May 15, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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Default How far can i drive with out tuning. Dyno 90 miles away. (yes i have searched)

Ok heres the deal. This summer i a buying all the parts to make my homemade turbo kit. Im going to be buying a s200 for my e manage. DSM 450cc are my injectors. Im planing on runing 7-8 psi max. i know i have to get it tuned but the nearest dyno is 90 miles away . I cant trailer my car because it is to low Do you think it will be ok to drive my car 90 miles to the dyno.

The motor Set up
Stock h23 block and head (getting it sleeved next year hopfuly it will last a year )

The turbo set up.
Hondata s200
Tial 38mm wastegate
3inch exhaust
t3/t4 airesearch turbo
Greddy type s bov
450cc injectors
walbro fuel pump 255lph
custom log manifold From Anthony at http://www.fab-works.com
Custom 3inch downpipe From Anthony athttp://www.fab-works.com
Custom dump tube From Anthony at http://www.fab-works.com
2.5inch IC piping
AVC-R boost controler
intercooler


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Old May 15, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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The easy way to bypass this is to just run a stock ecu setup without a spring in your wastegate. this way nothing is being boosted.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 06:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jnet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The easy way to bypass this is to just run a stock ecu setup without a spring in your wastegate. this way nothing is being boosted. </TD></TR></TABLE>
then when i get to the dyno i just put the 450cc in and the hondata and the spring back in?
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Old May 15, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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I drove 175 miles to the dyno one a stock ecu with stock injetors and had e-manage and injectors installed once i got to the dyno. you can leave teh wastegate spring installed, just dont get into postive pressure. its not hard to do, its more related to exhaust volume rather than rpm.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 06:53 PM
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stock ecu or a decent basemap but dont boost at all, use light throttle.
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Old May 15, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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Default Re: How far can i drive with out tuning. Dyno 90 miles away. (Muckman)

stock ECU (with hondata installed, but pin J11 jumped to run stock)
stock injectors
take out the spring from the Wastegate, for safety.

Don't boost on the way down and keep light throttle

Show up at the session early and install, 450's (30minutes), Spring back in wastegate(45min). You are ready to go
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Old May 15, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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Default Re: How far can i drive with out tuning. Dyno 90 miles away. (adseguy)

how hard is it to chip my h23 ecu for the hondata? Should i do it my self or some one do it pro? How much would it cost if a pro. did it?
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Old May 16, 2005 | 02:45 AM
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Chipping is easy if you can solder. Id tell you to make a decent basemap and youd be fine but you have Hondata so you probably cant (unelss you havbe that option).
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Old May 16, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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I say first get your turbo installed, then worry about getting to the dyno

seriously, I say run stock ecu as suggested. or have it towed... dude you can have it towed... my car is low as hell and I can get it on a flat bed with some wood planks to roll the car on with less of an angle...
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Old May 16, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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thanks for all the replys guys.
Im going to run stock injectors
Stock ecu
and no wastegate spring

If i put the 450cc injectors in with stock ecu will i be spraying in stock fuel or will it be spraying in mad fuel
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Old May 16, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92hondalude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for all the replys guys.
Im going to run stock injectors
Stock ecu
and no wastegate spring

If i put the 450cc injectors in with stock ecu will i be spraying in stock fuel or will it be spraying in mad fuel</TD></TR></TABLE>

the car will not start. leave the stock injectors in and install them at the shop as suggested.
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Old May 16, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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I drove my car 5 hours from Pensacola, FL all the way to MASE in Gainsville, FL on a basemap with 1000cc injectors. I was running lean as **** and made it just fine there. Just stay away from boost. I ran at 4,000 rpms which is about 80mph give or take a few and I made it fine... it wont hurt it just baby it and you will be fine!
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Old May 16, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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It'll start, but just run rich. Install your injectors when you get there it only takes like 30mintes to install them. If you want, install them then uninstall them, so you will be faster at it when you get there
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Old May 16, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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good news found a closer dyno this one is like 75-80 miles from here. Its and hamton VA called Balluzzo Engineering. Anyone that lives in hamton area do you know if they tune hondata or not.

How much dose in normaly cost to get your car tuned anyway?
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Old May 16, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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Mase charged 300 dollars to street tune mine... I local place around here charged 400... Have 500 max just incase ya never know! GOod luck!
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Old May 16, 2005 | 11:16 PM
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wtf kind of question is this. you could drive it a million years without tuning it as long as you build a bunch of boost pressure
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Old May 17, 2005 | 04:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92hondalude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good news found a closer dyno this one is like 75-80 miles from here. Its and hamton VA called Balluzzo Engineering. Anyone that lives in hamton area do you know if they tune hondata or not.

How much dose in normaly cost to get your car tuned anyway?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wasn't aware that there was a dyno anywhere in Hampton, if there is it might be a muscle car / domestic place. There is a dyno in Chespapeake, VA and a very good Hondata tuner in Virginia Beach named Shad. It is $200 for him to show up and $100/hr for tuning there after, which isn't a bad deal. You can get in touch with them by going to http://www.boostfed.com and getting their phone #.

Personally I'd sell the Hondata and just use uberdata...I have Hondata but it's getting awfully old to have to pay and drive 2 hours away just to get it tuned...when my friends running uberdata paid $300 for a wideband and that was pretty much it.

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Old May 17, 2005 | 05:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jnet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I wasn't aware that there was a dyno anywhere in Hampton, if there is it might be a muscle car / domestic place. There is a dyno in Chespapeake, VA and a very good Hondata tuner in Virginia Beach named Shad. It is $200 for him to show up and $100/hr for tuning there after, which isn't a bad deal. You can get in touch with them by going to http://www.boostfed.com and getting their phone #.

Personally I'd sell the Hondata and just use uberdata...I have Hondata but it's getting awfully old to have to pay and drive 2 hours away just to get it tuned...when my friends running uberdata paid $300 for a wideband and that was pretty much it.

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nice
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Old May 17, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jnet &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It is $200 for him to show up and $100/hr for tuning there after</TD></TR></TABLE>

how long do you thin it will take to tune on average? 2hrs
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Old May 17, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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a good tuner 1-2 hours depending how off it is.
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