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Old May 11, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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Default cam cap bolt broke by over torque. how to remove stud????

while tightning the cam caps, i must have not felt the torque wrench click, and i was starting to wonder why it had not clicked already. so i thought i would trust the torque wrench and kept pulling.

it broke the bolt. the head, shaft, and about 4 rows of threads are broken. the remainder of the threads are in the head.

i started to drill a very small bit into it, but stopped because i didnt want to **** anything up.

basically im asking for ideas on how to remove the remainder of the bolt thats still in the head.




circled in red is the location of the broken bolt.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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Default Re: cam cap bolt broke by over torque. how to remove stud???? (SkRiBLaH)

well..now that the bolt is useless...just grab it with a pair of pliers and twist...do this with all of the cam caps off though!
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Old May 11, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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Default Re: cam cap bolt broke by over torque. how to remove stud???? (H22PwrdHatch)

why not take a pic of the head so we can see how far down the bolt is
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Old May 11, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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its about 2 or 3 mm in the head. not very grabbable.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 10:35 PM
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Default Re: cam cap bolt broke by over torque. how to remove stud???? (SkRiBLaH)

get a "easy out" 1/8"

drill down the center of the bolt and thread this in, its reverse thread so it'll pull that broken piece out.

also cover everything with rags and tape off the area, so you wont get metal shaving in the head
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Old May 12, 2005 | 04:12 AM
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thanks alot! ill try that. any other ideas?
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Old May 12, 2005 | 04:32 AM
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Default Re: cam cap bolt broke by over torque. how to remove stud???? (SkRiBLaH)

Your best bet would be to take it to someone and have it helicoiled. I noticed that you live in NC. Darrell *** racing in eden can do it for you. If you need his number PM me and ill hook you up. Good luck on whatever you do though
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Old May 12, 2005 | 06:36 AM
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Default Re: cam cap bolt broke by over torque. how to remove stud???? (sCeRaXn)

if you arent confident with yourself taking it out with the easy-out, a machine shop will do it for a small fee.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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Default Re: cam cap bolt broke by over torque. how to remove stud???? (lohatch)

the threads are not stripped, but the bolt is stuck in the hole. i got the easy out, and im going to give it a whirl.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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Default Re: cam cap bolt broke by over torque. how to remove stud???? (SkRiBLaH)

snap on has a tool for this, call them up, they my have a truck to come out and help you
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Old May 12, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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Default Re: cam cap bolt broke by over torque. how to remove stud???? (jason bouchard)

Left handed drill bit, if that doesn't back it out for you when it bites...which it probably will...then move to the easy out. If you already are going for the easy out first, stop if it doesn't come fairly easy. If you break that thing off in there you are screwed as you won't be able to drill into that. They come in pretty cheap kits of 5 of each (left handed bits and easy outs) in different sizes and are essential to any toolbox's "oops" drawer. I did the same thing once....yuk. My bum inch pound wrench also decided to go out of callibratation every third use and snap bolts as well....Matco finally replaced that, whoo hoo. The Snap On style with the wheel on the side are pricey but worth the money. Good luck.
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Old May 12, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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I don't have a solution for your problem Daniel, but if you need someone to stand around and drink beer while you try and fix it just let me know.
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Old May 13, 2005 | 06:52 AM
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This will work: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=567450
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Old May 13, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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nice write up, try that if t doesnt work otherwise!
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Old May 13, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kendall &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't have a solution for your problem Daniel, but if you need someone to stand around and drink beer while you try and fix it just let me know.</TD></TR></TABLE>lmao,I hear that I'm too stupid to go and get an easy out kit,I usually just drill a small hole and hammer an allen wrench or tork's into the hole and remove the bolt.
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Old May 21, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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Default Re: cam cap bolt broke by over torque. how to remove stud???? (SkRiBLaH)

thanks to everyone that responded. i tryed the easy out. and yea. it broke off in there.

so i had to take it to a machine shop that put it on a CNC and used a carbide bit to get the bolt out.

a $50 mistake
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