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Old May 10, 2005 | 10:39 PM
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the inside of my yoko avs es100's are badly eaten up. ive searched and people are saying different things. i didnt get an alignment after lowering it so yea. heres a pic of how low it is. susp. is Skunk2 coilovers w/kyb agx.

thats an old pic and i dont have a pic of how bad the inside of the tires are(pretty much BALD). will an alignment do the job? if so are my tires still going to be good? ive had them for less than a year and im pretty bummed about my tires. thanks in advance
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Old May 10, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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Default Re: Bad inside tire wear=camber? toe? alignment? (JRizEJ6)

camber kits all the way around + alignment all the way around

just to be safe
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Old May 10, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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get an alignment. theyre going to check both toe and camber.
i had inside tire wear just like youre talking about on the same tires.
i dropped my car and when i put it on an alignment rack and i was WAY out of spec for TOE. camber on two wheels was within spec and the other 2 were like .1 out of spec which isnt going to matter. its more TOE then CAMBER in most cases i've seen. just go get an alignment
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Old May 11, 2005 | 08:59 AM
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yeah es100s dont last long anyway... shitty treadwear... and get it aligned asap. lookin clean
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Old May 11, 2005 | 09:12 AM
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focus on your toe settings... make sure they zero them out... you aren't slammed so that is probably one of the main sources of your uneven tire wear...

unfortunately, your tires are probably a waste if they are bald on the inside
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Old May 11, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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At least fix the camber of your front wheels. I always get my wheels re-balanced first before getting any alignment done. Just for added assurance.

I notice the "ClubEK" sticker you got on, that my car club started. s'up...
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Old May 11, 2005 | 09:14 AM
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Default Re: Bad inside tire wear=camber? toe? alignment? (JRizEJ6)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JRizEJ6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i didnt get an alignment after lowering it so yea. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You answered your own question. Toe wears tires, not camber.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nyhustla2k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">camber kits all the way around + alignment all the way around </TD></TR></TABLE>

He doesn't need a camber kit. I have visible camber on all 4 wheels, and have had no problems. I've run Azenis for track days, and Yokos on the street for about 40K, and they've warn evenly all the way.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by al3e &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah es100s dont last long anyway... shitty treadwear... </TD></TR></TABLE>

It's a performance tire, it's not meant to last for 80K. They are a great street tire, and have excelent wear for a summer only tire.

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Old May 11, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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Balance and wheel size will have no effect on alignment.

Alignments are done statically, and balance is only an issue dynamically.

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Old May 11, 2005 | 09:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Balance and wheel size will have no effect on alignment.

Alignments are done statically, and balance is only an issue dynamically.

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On my first Si, I had this bad wobbling on my car. I had a wheel-alignment done. I still had the wobble after a couple miles. I replaced entire CV axles of both sides. I still had the wobble after a couple of miles. I had the wheel bearings replaced on both sides. I still had the wobble a couple of miles. I ended up replacing the entire front hub and knuckles to Si-R's. Still that wobble was there after a couple of miles. I finally ended up getting my tires re-balanced and had another alignment done. They said that it was possibly my wheels were so un-balanced that it forced my alignment to go bad or something.

Anyway, I'm not saying that balancing has anything directly to do with his situation of bad tire-wear on the insides of his tires. What I was trying to say was go the whole 9 yards and get the tires balanced. Like when you get your car repainted. Might as well go the whole 9 yards and get the door jambs painted too, maybe even the engine bay as well. Do you get what I'm saying?
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Old May 11, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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Default Re: Bad inside tire wear=camber? toe? alignment? (MDJ IKNJ)

just get an alignment, you dont need a camber kit. your toe is causing the tire wear
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Old May 11, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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Alignment. Better than Camber Kit anyday. Proven fact.
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Old May 11, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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Default Re: Bad inside tire wear=camber? toe? alignment? (MDJ IKNJ)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MDJ IKNJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">At least fix the camber of your front wheels. I always get my wheels re-balanced first before getting any alignment done. Just for added assurance.

I notice the "ClubEK" sticker you got on, that my car club started. s'up...</TD></TR></TABLE>
S1? coo.

so after alignment just scrap my tires for new ones? no need to rebalance them?
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Old May 11, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JRizEJ6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
so after alignment just scrap my tires for new ones? no need to rebalance them? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, scrap the tires. When you buy new ones, they will be balanced after mounting.


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Old May 11, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yes, scrap the tires. When you buy new ones, they will be balanced after mounting.


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crap what a waste of es100's.had em less than a year too
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Old May 12, 2005 | 05:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JRizEJ6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
crap what a waste of es100's.had em less than a year too </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, it sucks. Alignments are much cheaper than new tires and camber kits; too bad you had to find out the hard way.

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Old May 12, 2005 | 08:17 AM
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Toe kills es100's again. Those tires suck anyways (personal exp.)
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Old May 12, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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But most shops won't do alignments on lowered cars and if they do they'll charge you extra...
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Old May 12, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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my toyo proxes wore out real bad cause i waited 2 weeks to get it aligned and now they got about 50% tread left cause my front toe was off... get aligned!!!
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Old May 12, 2005 | 09:55 AM
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I'm only dropped about 1.8'' (h&r sport springs) and I didn't get an alignment like a big dumbass and now my tires dead.

I'm waiting to get all the use I can out of them...then I'll get an alignment with some Azenis for the summer
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Old May 12, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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try gettin the toe fixed somewhere that will help a lot or atleast it did for my friend and he didnt have a camber kit and it made a hell of a difference.
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Old May 22, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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when is a camber kit necessary? if you're going to drop your car let's say a little more than 1.5".... is an alignment good enough?
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Old May 23, 2005 | 07:26 AM
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Have you ever rotate your tires? It will help prolong your tires also. Try to stay away from directional tires so you can do a proper rotation instead of just front to back.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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eg civic dont have camber adjustment just toe im not sure if the ek is the same. so for those cars you would need a camber kit to adjust camber. toe will even it self out when you start driving thats why some cars have a croocked steering wheel there for not causing a wear only excesive toe will cause tire wear.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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Default Re: Bad inside tire wear=camber? toe? alignment? (JRizEJ6)

are you doing any kinda like burning out sometimes... a few everynow and then will wear them out really fast as well..
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