How to trash a 2-week old 636..
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How to trash a 2-week old 636..
Hey guys, you may remember my post last week, the pics of the 05 and 03 GSXRs and the 636. If you dont then check out this thread--->https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1228291. First off lets start start this thread out with a little before and after...
This boys and girls is what a 05 Kawi 636 SHOULD look like:
It was a beautiful sunny afternoon in arizona and the guys and I decided to take a little ride up to Bartlett lake, after this quick 30 min trip, we decided to do a little canyon carving up the road. So my buddies and I ventured on through the twisties, Paul (the guy who sn this is) felt the need to take off ahead, Jon (636) was doing his best to hang with him I (2.2xdreams/03GSXR) decided "hang back, and be a sissy (in pauls words)" which actually paid off.
I(2.2) barely had sight of Jon when it happened, we were heading into a decresing radius left-hander. I saw jon go into the turn a little too agressive and begin to apex early, the last i saw of him he was heading for the guardrail but then i lost sight of him. I round the bend to find this:
Apparently, there was some loose gravel near the edge of the rail and once he had hit it, it was all over (see pics). The bike came out from under him and he smashed into the railing and flipped over it. But npt before snapping the wooden spacer on the rail with his chest.
Long story he was Air-Evac'ed out, and taken to the Hospital. He broke a few ribs and had suffered from deep lacerations. The scary part is that it could have been a lot worse if paul did not MAKE jon borrow his extra jacket. Jon at first refused because it was "hot" out... \
Anyways i guess i will just let the pics speak for themselves...
Here you can see the tire tracks and the angle at which the bike hit...
This boys and girls is what a 05 Kawi 636 SHOULD look like:
It was a beautiful sunny afternoon in arizona and the guys and I decided to take a little ride up to Bartlett lake, after this quick 30 min trip, we decided to do a little canyon carving up the road. So my buddies and I ventured on through the twisties, Paul (the guy who sn this is) felt the need to take off ahead, Jon (636) was doing his best to hang with him I (2.2xdreams/03GSXR) decided "hang back, and be a sissy (in pauls words)" which actually paid off.
I(2.2) barely had sight of Jon when it happened, we were heading into a decresing radius left-hander. I saw jon go into the turn a little too agressive and begin to apex early, the last i saw of him he was heading for the guardrail but then i lost sight of him. I round the bend to find this:
Apparently, there was some loose gravel near the edge of the rail and once he had hit it, it was all over (see pics). The bike came out from under him and he smashed into the railing and flipped over it. But npt before snapping the wooden spacer on the rail with his chest.
Long story he was Air-Evac'ed out, and taken to the Hospital. He broke a few ribs and had suffered from deep lacerations. The scary part is that it could have been a lot worse if paul did not MAKE jon borrow his extra jacket. Jon at first refused because it was "hot" out... \
Anyways i guess i will just let the pics speak for themselves...
Here you can see the tire tracks and the angle at which the bike hit...
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Re: How to trash a 2-week old 636.. (theSYNDICATE)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by theSYNDICATE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As I posted in the other thread. DON'T START ON A NEW 600!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
it's not the bike, it's the rider.
it's not the bike, it's the rider.
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Re: How to trash a 2-week old 636.. (theSYNDICATE)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by theSYNDICATE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As I posted in the other thread. DON'T START ON A NEW 600!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
Whats done is done, no point rubbing it in.
Best of wishes to your friend for a fast recovery.
Whats done is done, no point rubbing it in.
Best of wishes to your friend for a fast recovery.
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Re: How to trash a 2-week old 636.. (wildstallion)
this is why I will never ride too aggressive, you can never be to sure, and it only takes one time 
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Re: How to trash a 2-week old 636.. (MugenHonda)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jon at first refused because it was "hot" out... \</TD></TR></TABLE>
Classic line, this is becoming all to common. Hope he heals up soon and now understands what asphault on skin feels like.(wear all the gear)
Classic line, this is becoming all to common. Hope he heals up soon and now understands what asphault on skin feels like.(wear all the gear)
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Re: How to trash a 2-week old 636.. (theSYNDICATE)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by theSYNDICATE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As I posted in the other thread. DON'T START ON A NEW 600!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
What would that have mattered in this situation? The 600cc's didn't make the rider ride beyond his abilities.
What would that have mattered in this situation? The 600cc's didn't make the rider ride beyond his abilities.
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Re: How to trash a 2-week old 636.. (Reckless636)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Reckless636 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What would that have mattered in this situation? The 600cc's didn't make the rider ride beyond his abilities.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Exactly. Now I'll cry foul as quickly as the next guy when a rookie rider hops on an '05 600, BUT in this situation, there's nothing different if he would have been riding a liter bike or a 250. If you let your ego get in the way and ride beyond your limits just to try and keep up with "the guys", well things like this happen.
I'm truly sorry to hear about it and hope your friend is back out there soon.
Exactly. Now I'll cry foul as quickly as the next guy when a rookie rider hops on an '05 600, BUT in this situation, there's nothing different if he would have been riding a liter bike or a 250. If you let your ego get in the way and ride beyond your limits just to try and keep up with "the guys", well things like this happen.
I'm truly sorry to hear about it and hope your friend is back out there soon.
Hope he's ok bro!
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Re: How to trash a 2-week old 636.. (CBR600OnTop)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CBR600OnTop »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><FONT SIZE="4">Jon (636) was doing his best to hang with him</FONT> I (2.2xdreams/03GSXR) decided "hang back, and be a sissy (in pauls words)" which actually paid off.
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Never, EVER, try and play catch up with more experienced riders....or anyone else for that matter. Ride at your own damn pace. This is why if you dont take th msf, you should be taught by a responsible, experienced rider who will teach this **** to you. I guess its also a personality trait.
Had nothing to do with the size of the bike.
Im very sorry to read about your friend. I hate to see any rider in that position. Glad it is nothing TOO serious and best wishes for a quick recovery.
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Never, EVER, try and play catch up with more experienced riders....or anyone else for that matter. Ride at your own damn pace. This is why if you dont take th msf, you should be taught by a responsible, experienced rider who will teach this **** to you. I guess its also a personality trait.
Had nothing to do with the size of the bike.
Im very sorry to read about your friend. I hate to see any rider in that position. Glad it is nothing TOO serious and best wishes for a quick recovery.
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hope he has a quick recovery, i've had a few instances with guardrails (2) and they aren't fun, sorry to hear he's a little beat up, but im sure he will be back on the bike as soon as he can...
good luck to a quick recovery
good luck to a quick recovery
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CBRF4i »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I learned on a 600.</TD></TR></TABLE>
me too, im learning on my GSXR 600 and yah its more power than i will ever need but i also have a lot of self control, but anyways he should be out of the hospital within the next few days.
me too, im learning on my GSXR 600 and yah its more power than i will ever need but i also have a lot of self control, but anyways he should be out of the hospital within the next few days.
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Well after assesing the situation and knowing that he was ok and joking with me about what happened, I figured this would be a good way to never forget what happened and be reminder to everyone to be safe or something like this could happen to you.
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The point in my statement is this.
On a less powerful bike, you learn throttle control a lot easier because the power isn't as abrupt. You learn the limits and capabilities of a motorcycle(50cc-1000cc) because you can push it more without it pushing back.
It sounds like he was riding beyond his abbilites(sp?) trying to catch up to his buddies. That along with a heavy/not experienced throttle hand seemed to be the main cause of the wreck.
I am not trying to rub it in, or say I told you so. I hope he rides again, I hope he is alright.
"I(2.2) barely had sight of Jon when it happened, we were heading into a decresing radius left-hander. I saw jon go into the turn a little too agressive and begin to apex early, the last i saw of him he was heading for the guardrail but then i lost sight of him. I round the bend to find this:"
That is most definitely innexperience, but I have hit gravel in a turn before both on my 636 and EX500 and I didn't have the same result. That's why you go fast coming back out, or the second time through the roads you are riding. You don't know if there is sand or a log in the road. You don't know if it's a decreasing radius turn or increasing.
On a less powerful bike, you learn throttle control a lot easier because the power isn't as abrupt. You learn the limits and capabilities of a motorcycle(50cc-1000cc) because you can push it more without it pushing back.
It sounds like he was riding beyond his abbilites(sp?) trying to catch up to his buddies. That along with a heavy/not experienced throttle hand seemed to be the main cause of the wreck.
I am not trying to rub it in, or say I told you so. I hope he rides again, I hope he is alright.
"I(2.2) barely had sight of Jon when it happened, we were heading into a decresing radius left-hander. I saw jon go into the turn a little too agressive and begin to apex early, the last i saw of him he was heading for the guardrail but then i lost sight of him. I round the bend to find this:"
That is most definitely innexperience, but I have hit gravel in a turn before both on my 636 and EX500 and I didn't have the same result. That's why you go fast coming back out, or the second time through the roads you are riding. You don't know if there is sand or a log in the road. You don't know if it's a decreasing radius turn or increasing.
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Re: How to trash a 2-week old 636.. (CBR600OnTop)
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Apparently, there was some loose gravel near the edge of the rail </TD></TR></TABLE>
I am glad he is alive, there is no need to make excuses for a novice mistake.
Apparently, there was some loose gravel near the edge of the rail </TD></TR></TABLE>
I am glad he is alive, there is no need to make excuses for a novice mistake.
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Re: How to trash a 2-week old 636.. (Luke)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luke »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am glad he is alive, there is no need to make excuses for a novice mistake.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's what I was thinking, sounds like he came in too hot and target fixated on the guardrail judging by his angle of impact.
That's what I was thinking, sounds like he came in too hot and target fixated on the guardrail judging by his angle of impact.