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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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I am wondering if there is any reason other than hydraulic pressure loss for the clutch pressure almost disappear? I can still shift for the most part but I do not feel any pressure before the last 3 inches of depress. Clutch cylinder was not empty. Any idea of costs to fix it? EG hatch with 90 JDM B16A w/ USDM GSR S80 tranny.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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probably your master cylinder.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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You look like you are right. There is no leaks which would only leave the slave cylinder. Any body have an idea how long that should take a mechanic to replace?
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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There are no leaks where? At the clutch master cylinder or the slave cylinder? If it's either one, replace it yourself. It's cake to do and relatively cheap.

Try bleeding the clutch first though just to rule it out. Then check both cylinders (master and slave) for leaks.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ****** &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There are no leaks where? At the clutch master cylinder or the slave cylinder? If it's either one, replace it yourself. It's cake to do and relatively cheap.

Try bleeding the clutch first though just to rule it out. Then check both cylinders (master and slave) for leaks. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 05:37 PM
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There are no leaks between the Master and the Slave cylinders. When I opened both they were full. Although with the Slave clutch cylinder I acutually over filled it a little, just in case. It actually provided more pressure but not full pressure, so it is driveable. The car has 175,000 miles and it would not surprise me if it was failing. Brake pressure is fine so I do not think it is the Master cylinder. I found new slave cylinders on ebay for $28 so I might just install it myself if the air bleeding process can be done without getting under otherwise I would probably take it to a shop since I most likely will not have the time to get to it.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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wher eyou find a new one fo r$28
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by komat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wher eyou find a new one fo r$28
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Here you go

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=WDVW
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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is it your stock clutch? if it is i would just do some research on after market clutches and chose witch one is best for you i have act and its really hard but grabs good and my freind has a clutch master and its like stock but grabs hard.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtecnumskull &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is it your stock clutch? if it is i would just do some research on after market clutches and chose witch one is best for you i have act and its really hard but grabs good and my freind has a clutch master and its like stock but grabs hard. </TD></TR></TABLE>

It is an ACT Stage 3 clutch. It makes my left leg very strong! That is why when there is no back pressure from the clutch and it swings with no effort I know something is wrong. It has no feeling until the last 3 inches. The tranny works fine...
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 08:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sivicfied &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There are no leaks between the Master and the Slave cylinders. When I opened both they were full. Although with the Slave clutch cylinder I acutually over filled it a little, just in case. It actually provided more pressure but not full pressure, so it is driveable. The car has 175,000 miles and it would not surprise me if it was failing. Brake pressure is fine so I do not think it is the Master cylinder. I found new slave cylinders on ebay for $28 so I might just install it myself if the air bleeding process can be done without getting under otherwise I would probably take it to a shop since I most likely will not have the time to get to it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think you're mistaken a little on what certain parts are. There is a master cylinder for the brake system, you're correct, but there is also a clutch master cylinder which is on the driver's side of the engine bay, just to the left of the brake master cylinder. The slave cylinder for the clutch is on the front of the tranny, it's a smaller black piece with a bleeder valve on the front. You can't fill up the slave cylinder though. Both of these have seals in them that can go bad over time. I suggest you take a close look at both of these before you go spending money.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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Try bleeding the clutch before anything.

Also look by your clutch peddle and see if you see any leaking.
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Old May 2, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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You are probably right. Left of the master cylinder there is a resovior with a braided hose to what I thought was the slave cylinder that has a hard line running to the other side. The top of the resovoir cap says use dot 3 or 4 fluid just like the brake resovoir. Does that seem right?
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Old May 3, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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If you're looking at the engine from the front of the car you will see the large resevoir for the brake fluid, then just to the right of it (driver's side), there is a smaller resevoir that says use DOT 3 or 4 brake fluid. That's the clutch fluid resevoir.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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Having an extra set of hands will be very helpful bleeding the clutch. Have one step on the clutch and the other open and close the valve until the fluid is solid.
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Old May 3, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ****** &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're looking at the engine from the front of the car you will see the large resevoir for the brake fluid, then just to the right of it (driver's side), there is a smaller resevoir that says use DOT 3 or 4 brake fluid. That's the clutch fluid resevoir.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup that is it. Is the thing that it connects to the slave cylinder?
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