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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 03:49 AM
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I am buying another transmission soon cause my current one is dying. I am also thinking about buying some carbon syncros for it to make it stronger and hopefully allow me to be able to shift resonably quick with out worrying about grinding. I can buy some from gear speed for about $100-120 but it is only 2,3,and 4. Is this worth it?
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 03:58 AM
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can you post a link to them? if there is one.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 05:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondadude96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can buy some from gear speed for about $100-120 but it is only 2,3,and 4. Is this worth it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

1st and 5th gear don't have synchros from the factory. What kind of carbon are these? Carbon steel?

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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 06:06 AM
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i would like to know more about the synchros also? which tranny do they make them for.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 06:35 AM
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Its gear-speed.com im buying them for a 95 si tranny,

Our synchros have a carbon coating versus your stock metal teeth. This allows for quicker shifting at high RPM's and reduces high RPM grinding that is common in Honda transmissions. The Carbon coating acts as a braking material and stops the gear faster during shifts versus your standard synchro ring.

Worth doing?
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 06:53 AM
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gear speed is the best in honda transmissions, they supply all trannys to all honda dealerships in the us, um heck yeah its worth it. buy the syncros and get an lsd while ur at it.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 08:50 AM
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wish i had the money for an lsd. All thats wrong with my tranny now is differential is dying and the syncros are crap. But i guess a swap is cheaper
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 09:44 AM
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Neat. Have to check that out.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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Any one here got any carbon syncros? Is it worth the upgrade?
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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i did mine about a year ago have 3 trannys with them and so far they work flawless
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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you ride them hard at all? I dont trash my transmission but i shift hard every now and then (racing, playing, etc) Just curious as to how well they hold up.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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also did you install yourself? How hard is it? Ive never taken a tranny apart before but have some mechanical inclination, patience, time, and no money
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Well i bought the carbon syncros and i am planning on installing them myself. Ill let you guys know the outcome
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 02:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondadude96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well i bought the carbon syncros and i am planning on installing them myself. Ill let you guys know the outcome</TD></TR></TABLE>

good luck, id like to see a write up also cuz im planning on the same thing in a month or two, also, props on cracking the trans open yourself
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondadude96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you ride them hard at all? I dont trash my transmission but i shift hard every now and then (racing, playing, etc) Just curious as to how well they hold up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i dont drive them often but when i do they are driven hard , i did the install myself and as far as being a first timer if yuo got patience mechanically inclined and time and the tools you should be ok just remember how everything came apart i highly recomend a helms book during this process order a seal/bearing kit while u are at it bout 200 bucs if ya got a hook up judging by your screen name im thinkinh h22 tranny 1 thing to lookfor when you take it apart is the hub and slider alot of people think it is their syncros but actually the hub and slider is worn causing tranny to block out at higher rpms


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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 03:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EX_AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1st and 5th gear don't have synchros from the factory. What kind of carbon are these? Carbon steel? </TD></TR></TABLE>
what?
reverse is the only gear without a syncro, how do you shift into 5th at freeway speeds without a grind if it dosent have syncros? also how would you downshift into first without a grind?
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redstar98ex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they supply all trannys to all honda dealerships in the us</TD></TR></TABLE>
Umm, no they don't.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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Gears 1-5 do have a synchronizer. From the looks of the picture on slhondaparts.com they do.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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Umm, no they don't.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dimi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Gears 1-5 do have a synchronizer. From the looks of the picture on slhondaparts.com they do.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I miss-typed. I meant to say 1st and reverse don't have a synchro, and 5th probably never needs to be replaced. I could be wrong about 1st, but I checked http://www.slhondaparts.com and I didn't see one. There aren't many trannys out there that have one on 1st, and since I can only 2-1 shift when going very slow or stopped, I assumed Honda was the same.

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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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I know you shouldn't shift to 1st from a roll, but if you didn't have a synchro on 1st, wouldn't it grind when you shift into 1st even from a dead stop? Reverse I doubt has one, it grinds everytime if you don't enter another gear before it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dimi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know you shouldn't shift to 1st from a roll, but if you didn't have a synchro on 1st, wouldn't it grind when you shift into 1st even from a dead stop?</TD></TR></TABLE>
If the input shaft was still spinning, yes.

1st is definitely synchronized. Only reverse is not.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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when i talked to gearspeed the other day they said their kit contained synchros for 1-5 so yes first has a synchro.
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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 04:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
1st is definitely synchronized. Only reverse is not.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondadude96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when i talked to gearspeed the other day they said their kit contained synchros for 1-5 so yes first has a synchro. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, color me wrong. I could have sworn 1st didn't have a synch. Sorry for the missinformation.

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Old Apr 28, 2005 | 04:59 AM
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im really excited about getting these and getting them in. Everything transmission is usually ungodly expensive. I was thinking synchros would be alot more than they were.
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