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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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Default Shifter slop on 4th gen prelude

Several days ago, I started having about 1.5" of free movement in my shifter. This movement only works up and down. Gate selection movement works fine. Pulled the center console out and my shift linkage is connected to the shifter perfectly. The slop is somewhere either on my shift linkage (not likely IMO, as it shifts perfectly well, except for the extra 1.5" in each throw), or in my tranny.

Anybody have any ideas?

EDIT: Update lower down here


Modified by xthephilx at 2:22 PM 4/20/2005
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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read my thread about taking the slop out of your shifter.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1153749
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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It's not that kind of slop. Note in my sig that i've already replaced the bushings with washers. The movement i'm talking about doesn't want to recenter itself. I could move it to anywhere in its range of motion and it'll just stay there.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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Bump...this is really annoying
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 08:57 AM
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A friend of mine had a similar problem. Wasn't as bad as the way you describe, but there was about 1/2" of extra front/rear play in the shifter after it was in gear. A few weeks after the problem surfaced, he broke a shift cable.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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Joy. Anybody know where I can get just the shift cables by themselves?
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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If you can find them at a junkyard that would be the cheapest place.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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Update: had a friend take a look at it. The shifter cables seem fine. The slop is in either the shift tower or inside the actual transmission. Is there anything that tends to go wrong in the shift tower, or am I just completely screwed?
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 12:09 PM
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No you are not completely screwed. I had the exact same problem, when I shifted hard it would be able to pull all the way back, etc, not recenter. I was using a short shifter adaptor at the time, and it was pissing me off too, but still driveable.

Solution: get a forbidden short shifter. After I installed it, problem was gone completely. Im not sure why, but it might have had to do with the adaptor.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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Bump cuz its still not fixed and i'm still looking for input. I've been driving like i'm 80 all week, it's really annoying.

Homesauce: It's not the shifter itself, although what you're describing is the same problem as mine. The shift cables are mounted perfectly to the shifter.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 01:23 PM
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Default Re: Shifter slop on 4th gen prelude (xthephilx)

Update:

Finally got to take my tranny apart. If anybody has the FSM, the parts missing are the lock washer and the bolt holding it down (13 and 14 for anybody with a lookup thingy...forgot what thats called). Not sure where they went, but they mustve been there at some time because the problem wasn't always there.

Either way, ordered new ones for $10 shipped at the dealer today. I'll take pics tomoro about what's missing.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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Just sounds like one of the large clips that secures the linkage up by the transmission popped off.
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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nope, the clips are there. It's the bolt that's inside the shifter. I'm going to go take pictures in a sec.

EDIT: pictures:

Circled in red is what should be there, but isn't:


There's the shift arm, without lock washer and bolt.


And the removed shift tower, because I like taking pictures:



Modified by xthephilx at 6:27 PM 4/20/2005


Modified by xthephilx at 6:27 PM 4/20/2005
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Old Apr 20, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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bump cuz i cant figure out where the hell that washer went...
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Old Apr 21, 2005 | 02:56 PM
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Update: The old lock bolt apparently BROKE OFF inside where it should be. Going to go drill it out soon, hopefully that'll be the end of this bullshit.
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Old May 1, 2005 | 05:48 AM
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This is the exact same problem I had. I extracted the bolt from the shaft and replaced it with a good one from the hardware store. I wasn't aware that there was a lock washer on there too. How important is it?
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Old May 1, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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lock washers are a definite necessity inside transmissions......go get one.....

that sucks phil, so im guessing you dont remember initially doing that....like slamming one gear extra hard or something...
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