Today I took apart my shifter linkage and cleaned and regreased everything and it felt smoother but not exactly what I was going for. I noticed that when I fully engauge a gear the entire base plate would kinda rock back and forth. I looked at the plate and it was held to the tranny tunnel by really soft rubber grommet type things. I removed the upper gromets and the lower ones as well and used shorter bolts and washers to bolt the base plate directly to the tranny tunnel.

The result is zero slop, and I notice the shift gates are much more clearly defined and each gear change is smoother due to the base plate being more solidly anchored. There are really no downsides to this mod either, the bushings don't isolate any vibrations due to the metal sleeve inside of them. And the base plate sits maybe 3-5 mm lower now and no this shouldn't harm the tranny at all since the cables and plate are all one peace and do not move independantly of eachother.

I also have a shorth shifter adptor and it feels much better now




Replace #23 with a shorter bolt and wide washer
remove #13 #14 and #16





Modified by matty c at 10:16 AM 2/18/2005

 

You have any pictures to see how it looks.

 

So in that picture which #'s did you remove? And what year is your lude?

 

Replace #23 with a shorter bolt and wide washer
remove #13 #14 and #16

This was in my original post

my prelude is a 92 I belive it will only work for 4th gens since the 5th gen base plate is configured differently.

 

hmmm..interesting..but Honda must have put those rubber isolators there for a reason..any Mech Engineers out there?

 

I think the only reason for them to be there is to make the shifter less suceptable to vibrations transmitted form the tranny to the shifter, but I have noticed to difference in vibrations at all.

 

Yeah, RSX guys have been replacing those bushing pieces with aluminum ones for a while now.

 

Good work, I think I'll try this.

 

I think ill do this too but i will wait till after Hawkze to see what he thinks so keep me up to date

 

I wonder if 4,5, and 16 are the same things as the 4th gens on 5th gens.


Looks like they are in this diagram.

 

http://www.pspectuning.com has good pictures of both shifter assemblies in his installation tutorials . . .

They're not the same, but something could be done w/ the 5th gen one I'm sure.

 

yeah here is a picture of what I'm talking about. Remove the 4 rubber doughnuts on the four corners.



Remove these bottom ones, too.

 

i did this a while back and it did improve a bit....it is also a bit noisier when shifting but i dont mind.

 

I can vouch that nothing will break... ive got the bracket bolted straight to the metal in my eg for a very long time.

 

very nice, i give it a .

 

does it make the shifter sit lower?

 

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a little... barely noticable tho.

 

hmmm, sounds worth a try...

 

5th gens dont have that "floating" feeling when shifting. I know what you mean though. On almost all swapped car ive driven if you have ur hand on the shifter you can feel it sway back and forth.

 

Im gonna give it a try this weekend

 

Does anyone happen to know the size of bolts i need to buy to replace the longer ones.

 

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just take your old ones to the hardwars store to match up the threads on the little toll thingy they have there.

 

the transmission cant send vibrations to the shifter b/c the transmission sits next to engine and is connected via cables not a linkage.

 

I just finished doing this mod. It gets a for the results. If you are planning on doing it the bolts are m8x1.25 at ace hardware. The bolts i used were a little over a inch long. Make sure you get washers with the bolts.

 

5th gens have the same bushings, they just look different

My cars and all my friends cars, from Hondas to Toyotas to DSM's, have all had this simple procedure performed. It makes a big difference, and feels great.