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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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i saw some people suggesting other people to put turbo on their stock engine. is it really that safe? i mean, what kind of pistons does honda has? i know in a stock Z28, it is not safe at all to put a turbo in a stock motor, engine wise that is.

put that aside,

how safe is it to turbo my stock 96 DX? do i have D16Y8 or y7?

thanks for your opinion....

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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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you have a d16y7.. and I bet 70% of people on here with turbo's have stock blocks it's all about the tuning
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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if i am not mistaken, the stock bottom end to a SOHC D-series should be able to hold boost and also right around 200HP on stock internals!!
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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Its all bout tuning it properly. You can run a turbo on your stock civic motor.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 04:14 PM
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for low boost the pistons are alright. I would worry more about the rods tho.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blurrrcivic94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> it's all about the tuning</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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I would say go for it. turbo that ****. just dont' go crazy with it, run it at like 5-6lbs of boost daily driving and if you're going to race it and want to raise the boost don't go higher than 10-12lbs. my opinion you know.
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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Boost the **** out of it. The reason I say that is because how much is a sohc motor.... Hello! Who cares if it blows up spend another 300-500 dollars for another engine.
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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Tuning is the key
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TylerH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Boost the **** out of it. The reason I say that is because how much is a sohc motor.... Hello! Who cares if it blows up spend another 300-500 dollars for another engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that only if u can pull motors yourself other wise he would be p[aying a shop a fortune. but to really answer your question it al really depends on tuning for one and what size turbo u plan on using
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 07:25 PM
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get yourself a junkyard turbo, learn uberdata and call it a day
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 08:21 PM
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i can see that tuning is the key to turbo cars,

is there a good way to tune my car after i put a turbo in it? like is there a good software that i can use it to tune my car by myself, or should i go to a shop and have them tune the car?

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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 08:29 PM
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go to google and type in "uberdata" the first link is a site that has a free program to tune. but you'll have to convert your car to OBD1 abd run a p28 ecu,and then you can tune all you want, mind you will have to buy a wideband oxygen sensor, chip burner and datalogging cable...
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 08:34 PM
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u need to search man there are a lot of threads on here about turboing stock motors and making homemade turbo kits but check this thread out https://honda-tech.com/zerosearch
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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There is a guy up in Fargo who ran a nice d series boosted and got like 230+ hp but tuning is essential.
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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You don't need a p28. Just get yourself a p06 with an obdI to obdIIa harness and either run hondata, Uberdata, or chrome. Your dx does not have vtec so you don't need the p28. Keep it under 8psi and 7000rpm daily and you can drive it pretty hard. Over 7000 and it gets pretty easy to float a valve and the rods look like pencils. I made 165@6.5psi and 202whp@10.5psi on the same motor that you have.... You have a d16y7 in your car.....
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Old May 6, 2022 | 07:01 AM
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ayoo, guys I'm new in the car world and I bought a civic 1994 CX hatchback. so I wanna turbo it but idk if my engine will blow up, have any one of you turbo a 94 cx civic with a stock engine? and if you did it, it is really worth it? because my car have 70 hp but I want more and I feel if I turbo it, it will blow up. do you guys know another way to get more hp? please I need awsers. (sorry for my writing I'm from Latino America and I normally speak Spanish) also if I wanna use it like a daily how big you guys recommend the turbo?
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Old May 6, 2022 | 08:14 AM
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ayoo, guys I'm new in the car world and I bought a civic 1994 CX hatchback. so I wanna turbo it but idk if my engine will blow up, have any one of you turbo a 94 cx civic with a stock engine? and if you did it, it is really worth it? because my car have 70 hp but I want more and I feel if I turbo it, it will blow up. do you guys know another way to get more hp? please I need awsers. (sorry for my writing I'm from Latino America and I normally speak Spanish) also if I wanna use it like a daily how big you guys recommend the turbo?
This question gets asked often, so hopefully other people interested in turbocharging their stock D series read this.
This thread is old so I don’t know if you’ll get responses. You’re better off in the forced induction forum, however.
It is possible to turbocharge your engine if it’s in good condition (compression test is good). Since it’s the non-VTEC single cam, I’d keep it at less than 200 wheel horsepower, which will actually be quick in your light weight hatchback.
For turbo size I’d say a T3/T04b turbo like the Precision 4831 that has a 48mm sized compressor wheel. Get an exhaust manifold and downpipe meant to match the flanges of the turbocharger.
You'll need a stronger clutch-if going for 200HP then I’d go for a stage 2 clutch such as Action, Clutchmasters, etc.
I’d stay away from non branded Ebay parts for the whole build and stick with known brands that are reputable in the forced induction forum.
Since it’s a ‘94 Hondata will work to tune the car easily, as long as your ECU is in good condition. Hondata can repair parts of your ECU sometimes, so you can contact them to see if they service your OBD1 ECU. They can install the socket that the “chip” plugs into your computer, I believe.
For turbo parts such as exhaust manifold, downpipe, dump tube, intercooler, and intercooler piping, Go-Autoworks can fabricate what you need, or there are cast manifolds available on EBay if you want to go the cheaper route.
If you want your engine to last a while, it should, however given the year of the car, it’s quite possible it might start to burn oil from something like valve stem seals, or piston rings, so consider a partial rebuild of the engine as something you might do in the future. You don’t need sleeves and full valvetrain or even forged pistons unless your pushing 350+ horsepower. You could hold off on an engine rebuild until it’s needed, then just put in Vitara pistons, speedfactory no notch rods, Supertech valve springs, valve stem seals, new bearings, etc, and the whole rebuild could cost about $2000 or so.
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Old May 6, 2022 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by highschooler
This question gets asked often, so hopefully other people interested in turbocharging their stock D series read this.
This thread is old so I don’t know if you’ll get responses. You’re better off in the forced induction forum, however.
It is possible to turbocharge your engine if it’s in good condition (compression test is good). Since it’s the non-VTEC single cam, I’d keep it at less than 200 wheel horsepower, which will actually be quick in your light weight hatchback.
For turbo size I’d say a T3/T04b turbo like the Precision 4831 that has a 48mm sized compressor wheel. Get an exhaust manifold and downpipe meant to match the flanges of the turbocharger.
You'll need a stronger clutch-if going for 200HP then I’d go for a stage 2 clutch such as Action, Clutchmasters, etc.
I’d stay away from non branded Ebay parts for the whole build and stick with known brands that are reputable in the forced induction forum.
Since it’s a ‘94 Hondata will work to tune the car easily, as long as your ECU is in good condition. Hondata can repair parts of your ECU sometimes, so you can contact them to see if they service your OBD1 ECU. They can install the socket that the “chip” plugs into your computer, I believe.
For turbo parts such as exhaust manifold, downpipe, dump tube, intercooler, and intercooler piping, Go-Autoworks can fabricate what you need, or there are cast manifolds available on EBay if you want to go the cheaper route.
If you want your engine to last a while, it should, however given the year of the car, it’s quite possible it might start to burn oil from something like valve stem seals, or piston rings, so consider a partial rebuild of the engine as something you might do in the future. You don’t need sleeves and full valvetrain or even forged pistons unless your pushing 350+ horsepower. You could hold off on an engine rebuild until it’s needed, then just put in Vitara pistons, speedfactory no notch rods, Supertech valve springs, valve stem seals, new bearings, etc, and the whole rebuild could cost about $2000 or so.
hey man, I appreciate a lot that you answered and you also answer other questions that I had. so lucky for me because I have an old susuki Vitara 2002 that Im using as a daily at the moment but I may get those pistons from marketplace or any pick and pull, also do you know any website or any forum recent that I can ask more questions? and like I said I actually really appreciate your answer it helped a lot.
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Old May 6, 2022 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by civic 1994 cx
hey man, I appreciate a lot that you answered and you also answer other questions that I had. so lucky for me because I have an old susuki Vitara 2002 that Im using as a daily at the moment but I may get those pistons from marketplace or any pick and pull, also do you know any website or any forum recent that I can ask more questions? and like I said I actually really appreciate your answer it helped a lot.
You’re welcome. If you have specific questions, first do a search, then try the forced induction forum on Honda-tech ( https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced-induction-16/)
Or you can send me a message if you’re stuck on something. I don’t know everything, but I’m on my 3rd turbo build now.


For the pistons, I recommend brand new:
https://www.speedfactoryracing.net/c...a-piston-combo
It says that Speedfactory is out of stock, but they are a good source and can give you an estimate of how long they will take to get.

I don’t think you should rebuild your engine first, or rebuild it unless you need to. Try to get the turbo working on a stock engine first, and you’ll have lots of fun with up to 200 horsepower. You might not need to rebuild your engine at all, if it’s tuned correctly and maintained. I drove for two years on a stock engine with an aftermarket turbo set up then sold the car in good condition, and made back most of the money I originally spent.

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Old May 6, 2022 | 10:21 AM
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Also civic 1994 cx, don’t buy any pistons before having your engine block at a machine shop so they know how much they have to over bore your block. You don’t want to get stuck with pistons you bought in advance, then you find out it needs to get bored to .5 millimeters more or less.

Theres a company that can install your bottom
end and install a part called Cylinder Support System (CSS). If I had to do a rebuild over again I would consider them.
https://cylindersupportsystem.com
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