94 ls auto. want to know how much a manual conv would run me w/ labor

 

alot...most will say not worth it...take it to a shop near you and ask....also, try asking jeff evans, i know he's a tuner and not a mechanic, but he knows a shitload about honda's, and may be willing to do that for you....hes in easton PA....sn on here is boosted hybrid

 

better off buying another teg w/ manual, IMHO.

or searching

 

yea a manual swap does cost a lot of money. if u really want it i would suggest sellin ur car n buy a manual one... maybe a gsr

 

how much are you people calling a lot of money???.... parts would run you about a 1 grand...labor about 500-700 bucks....its not as much as people are making it seem...[coming from someone that did it]

 

It cost me around 700 for labor and 700 for parts (w/o) transmission

 

yea which is why im wondering where these people get off making it seem like it costs the price of another car and its so much hassle....and if you know anything about a car you could perform labor with a few friends and a couple of cold beers...cutting costs even more

 

look around and find good deals on stuff. then get some honda-heads together and tackle it one weekend. it takes a long time to do but its nothin scary, im about to do mine as soon as i round up the parts. i thought about selling my car and getting a vtec-er but i thought that was the easy way out. you can get everything for 1100. prolly 300 for 6 hours labor. you do need a crap load of parts though. good luck.

 

listen to usdm97dc4 , me and ghost32....people that have done it....many of the others [no offense] dont sound like they know what they are talking about...1500 bucks is average price...with parts and labor....check thepartstrader for parts and even here...just be careful there are a lot of scammers...i redid mine with a gsr tranny [ 500 bucks] and all the lil misc stuff wasnt so bad....the clutch pressure plate etc costed about 300 though [performance grade] and hasport mount was about 180

 

if i were to get the gsr tranny what would it consist of or does it depend.

 

helped a buddy of mine do a manual conversion for his MR2.

It was pretty easy. In parts in ran up to $150-$200 (i forgot the exact number).

He bought a clutch master cylinder, clutch pedal, clutch line, manual shifter and components.

This was a JDM 3SGTE swapped into a N/A automatic shell. With the swap, it already came with shift linkages. The MR2's firewall already came with pre-made holes and fittings for the clutch pedal and clutch master cylinder. So there wasnt really anything to it but just bolting it on. Same goes with the clutch line. The shift linkage was then hooked up to the "shift box" or "manual shifter" ( dont know the appropriate name for it). All that was left was bleeding out the clutch line. Once youve got pressure, youre good to go.

Correct me if im wrong, but im sure that the honda/acura shells already came with pre-made holes/fittings from an automatic. If so then it shouldnt be that hard. But there is always that exceptional reasons like automatic trannies etc. Im not too sure if youre able to swap trannies, but if not, then the manual conversion is best to do during a full motor swap.

Thats the best i can do, hope it helps. Correction to this statement are very much welcomed.

 

the automatic chasis has everything ...only welding done is the upper tranny mount....and some sheet metal to cover over the hole left by the shifter..its a pretty easy process...just a lot ppl never did it so they think its a god's mechanic only job and will cost thousands and thousands of dollars

 

a gsr tranny should consist of just the tranny....i can give you a list of parts youll need for the conversion if you pm me

 

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I would take it to a shop because there is cutting involved also you need to get another mount for the tranny. The manual tanny has a different mount.
It is a headache that is why they are saying get a new car. I was also cut a deal on the labor cause I knew the guys. The reason why I had the swap done was because I modded out my teg suspensionand didn't want to lose those parts and/or swap them out.

 

should have bought the hasport mount...would have saved you the headache youre talking about...and no you werent cut a deal on labor lol....the high price shops here charge about 700 for labor...if you know people you can get it for around 300-500...you tried to use an oem manual mount....which is why it ended up causing you so much trouble... im assuming? because when i used the hasport mount i didnt run into this "headache" youre referring to

 

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My logic for just buying anther car:

Sell auto 94 LS ~ $3000
Buy another LS in 5 spd (possibly even newer / lower miles) ~ -$3000-$4000

= Net change = $0 - $1000 + tax / reg / smog

Unless you're one who absolutely hates parting with your baby, I opt for this option. In either scenario, you run the risk of shady peeps.

On the other hand, if he has some mods worth keeping, that's another story.

 

oh point well taken then...if its stock...by all means resell that crap

 

I had a 98 Auto GS, sold it and got a 98 GS-R in Nov. lot easier

 

my parts list and prices-

B16 hydro tranny- 650
new starter- 125
used flywheel- 45
HA Sport mount- 145
shift linkage- 80
exedy clutch- 180
flywheel to
crank bolts- 65
clutch pedal- 25
brake/gas pedel- 25
rear "t" mount- 30
ft trany stab. mt- 30
intermidiate shaft-45
misc. bolts- 25
hydrolic lines
clutch cylinder
slave cylinder- 30

total-- 1,500

Most of these parts came from salvage yards, some from the dealership.
The labor isnt horrible, but there is some cutting and drilling involved, even with the ha-sport mount. NONE of the mounts for the trans, the intermediate shaft, the starter, nor any of the bolts can be used from the auto trans. Not to mention the wiring..

If i hadent picked up the car for next to nothing with a bad auto in it, i wouldnt have done it. It wasnt the labor, it was just the headache of finding all the stuff, and then finding the space/time to do it.

 

when you said you redid your car with a gsr tranny did u have a auto ls or gsr before. the reason i ask is i have a 98 ls auto and my trans is starting to slip so i want to drop a new manual trans in. i want to go with the gsr tranny cause in a year or so when i save up the money im going to drop a b18c in and would like the engine and trans to match up in the final stage. i would rip the engine out now but i see no reason since it runs perfect. im not sure if the ls engine and gsr trans match up or not, and if they do which ecu i will need, either the manual ls or gsr.

 

you could get a LS cable tranny for 400 if you look right...and you wouldnt have to mess with hydro lines.

 

i also did mine,

B16 hydro tranny - 600
new starter- 20
used flywheel- free
HA Sport mount- 150
shift linkage- 80
NKK clutch- 160
flywheel to
crank bolts- 25
clutch pedal 20
brake/gas pedel

rear "t" mount- i cut and welded mine
ft trany stab. mt- 30
intermidiate shaft- 50
misc. bolts- 25
hydrolic lines
clutch cylinder - 30
slave cylinder- 30

i also went ahead and got some mount inserts 50 bucks

total-- 1,220

jdm itr shift boot 28 bucks
jdm itr titanium **** 60 bucks....they run for 100


it depends and what you get, i could have keep my total around 800 if i would have gotten an LS tranny cut n welded the chassis for tranny mount, and used more used parts,

i had originally purchased a itr tranny for 1100 but the push rod was bent so i got my money back and bought a b16....HUGE difference night and day..

 

the auto starter can be used with some fabrication....cant remember where it was done..but i know someone did it before

 

silverdc2 how long did it take you to do the conversion? i'm thinking about doing it myself but i'm lazy

 

with a lazy friend took me 2 days work 10 hours.... could be done in 1 day but the auto tranny is bitch to take off...

it was also my first time installing a MT....