My WTF!!! car wont start question!
Ok cliff notes version, intake manifold had a leak, car was in running shape when i took it off, fixed it reinstalled it, when connecting the battery i let the wrench ground out for a second by accident.
Went to start the car-fuel pump primed and everything looked fine, tuned key just got the clicks (you know the clicks). Disconnected the battery and tried again now the fuel pump isnt even priming. I checked the fuses. WTF am i missing?
Went to start the car-fuel pump primed and everything looked fine, tuned key just got the clicks (you know the clicks). Disconnected the battery and tried again now the fuel pump isnt even priming. I checked the fuses. WTF am i missing?
I think you blew the main fuse when you grounded out the battery. It's probably located somewhere near the battery...
Always disconnect the negative first then the positive, and for re-connection, positive first and negative after
Always disconnect the negative first then the positive, and for re-connection, positive first and negative after
Yeah, probably the main fuse. If you have a DA I do know the main fuse is located in the under-hood fuse box, and probably in the same place for a G3. Also possible you could have discharged the battery by shorting it, but thats a long shot.
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yes that was so appropriate....
i agree with the other guys its probably the main fuse in the under-hood fuse box.
yes that was so appropriate....
i agree with the other guys its probably the main fuse in the under-hood fuse box.
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yes that was so appropriate....
i agree with the other guys its probably the main fuse in the under-hood fuse box.
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I checked them they all look fine
yes that was so appropriate....
i agree with the other guys its probably the main fuse in the under-hood fuse box.
</TD></TR></TABLE>I checked them they all look fine
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Did you use a test lamp to check them? You can often overlook a blown fuse when inspecting by eye...believe me, especially when your head is fryed coz your car won't go!
I presume the battery is charged?
I presume the battery is charged?
did anyone ever think that shorting the battery MIGHT be a problem
if the fuses are fine, I go a head and check the battery
and who the hell push starts anything, it the bitch cant fire under its own power then it shouldnt be driven in the first place...
HT never ceases to amaze me
if the fuses are fine, I go a head and check the battery
and who the hell push starts anything, it the bitch cant fire under its own power then it shouldnt be driven in the first place...
HT never ceases to amaze me
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FastSS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did anyone ever think that shorting the battery MIGHT be a problem
if the fuses are fine, I go a head and check the battery
and who the hell push starts anything, it the bitch cant fire under its own power then it shouldnt be driven in the first place...
HT never ceases to amaze me</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why not? Whats wrong with a push if the battery is fried? At least it'll get you out of trouble if you're stuck somewhere. And I think Vintegra may just have been trying to be funny...
BTW did you read the replys? The first thing I said was check for blown fuses having shorted out the battery. Crossing a battery for a second or two won't kill it.
if the fuses are fine, I go a head and check the battery
and who the hell push starts anything, it the bitch cant fire under its own power then it shouldnt be driven in the first place...
HT never ceases to amaze me</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why not? Whats wrong with a push if the battery is fried? At least it'll get you out of trouble if you're stuck somewhere. And I think Vintegra may just have been trying to be funny...
BTW did you read the replys? The first thing I said was check for blown fuses having shorted out the battery. Crossing a battery for a second or two won't kill it.
re-read his topic, he checked the fuses
And push starting is never a good option, like I said if something is causing it not to run on its own besides a starter problem, dont push start it.
And push starting is never a good option, like I said if something is causing it not to run on its own besides a starter problem, dont push start it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FastSS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">re-read his topic, he checked the fuses
And push starting is never a good option, like I said if something is causing it not to run on its own besides a starter problem, dont push start it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
????? please explain how it's goin to damage the car to push start it????....plus itf its the starter its and ez way to check to see if it is
And push starting is never a good option, like I said if something is causing it not to run on its own besides a starter problem, dont push start it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
????? please explain how it's goin to damage the car to push start it????....plus itf its the starter its and ez way to check to see if it is
if this is caused by an electrical problem I fail to see the connection between putting electricity back into the system and a good idea
electrical problems cause car fires and if you think engines dont need electricity to run, you are a fool.
electrical problems cause car fires and if you think engines dont need electricity to run, you are a fool.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FastSS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if this is caused by an electrical problem I fail to see the connection between putting electricity back into the system and a good idea
electrical problems cause car fires and if you think engines dont need electricity to run, you are a fool.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i know engines need electricity to run, but if its not getting it it won't run....but push starting a car won't ruin it, say you you stop a a gas station far from where you need to be and your starter happens to go out. what are ya gonna do be stranded there or push start to get it home. oh and BTW the starter is what sends the spark too the motor its the dizzy and altenator....
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but yea back to the topic, did you happen to take any grounds off or take the stater out, if you took it out theres a posiblity that you might have connected the terminals up wrong. just go and retrace everything you did
hope you get it running
Modified by projectTeG at 1:54 AM 4/3/2005
electrical problems cause car fires and if you think engines dont need electricity to run, you are a fool.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i know engines need electricity to run, but if its not getting it it won't run....but push starting a car won't ruin it, say you you stop a a gas station far from where you need to be and your starter happens to go out. what are ya gonna do be stranded there or push start to get it home. oh and BTW the starter is what sends the spark too the motor its the dizzy and altenator....
,but yea back to the topic, did you happen to take any grounds off or take the stater out, if you took it out theres a posiblity that you might have connected the terminals up wrong. just go and retrace everything you did
hope you get it runningModified by projectTeG at 1:54 AM 4/3/2005
btw are u an electrician? u sure kno a lot ther dont ya?
but how is a fire going to start if a fuse is blown or the circuit is lost?.... oh yea it wont. pushstarting is just a way to bypass the starter and battery, it doesnt regardlessly shove electricity through the car.................
the only way a push start will hurt ur car is with the cat converter... but who needs those anyway
but how is a fire going to start if a fuse is blown or the circuit is lost?.... oh yea it wont. pushstarting is just a way to bypass the starter and battery, it doesnt regardlessly shove electricity through the car.................
the only way a push start will hurt ur car is with the cat converter... but who needs those anyway
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VINtegra91 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">btw are u an electrician? u sure kno a lot ther dont ya?
but how is a fire going to start if a fuse is blown or the circuit is lost?.... oh yea it wont. pushstarting is just a way to bypass the starter and battery, it doesnt regardlessly shove electricity through the car.................
the only way a push start will hurt ur car is with the cat converter... but who needs those anyway</TD></TR></TABLE>
VIN I'm agreein. Listin to us!! Check fuses. Again. With a test lamp.
Shorting out the battery for a second won't kill it or the ECU, obviously if you are "a bit simple" - shall we say - and leave it shorting coz you like the pretty little fires you will blow the ECU.
but how is a fire going to start if a fuse is blown or the circuit is lost?.... oh yea it wont. pushstarting is just a way to bypass the starter and battery, it doesnt regardlessly shove electricity through the car.................
the only way a push start will hurt ur car is with the cat converter... but who needs those anyway</TD></TR></TABLE>
VIN I'm agreein. Listin to us!! Check fuses. Again. With a test lamp.
Shorting out the battery for a second won't kill it or the ECU, obviously if you are "a bit simple" - shall we say - and leave it shorting coz you like the pretty little fires you will blow the ECU.
Shorting out a battery could possibly damage the charge plates causing an internal battery short.
Any charge put in via alternator will be wasted via the short and when the battery gets tired of being shorted you will hear a loud pop followed by a sulfuric acid shower any further questions?
Check fuses, check all connections do not push start.
The ONLY time I would ever suggest a push start is if your STARTER is broken.
This is almost as good as the fool that hydrolocked his **** and decided to push start it and wondered why it just skidded... guess highschool physics failed to teach him that water doesnt compress for ****.
Any charge put in via alternator will be wasted via the short and when the battery gets tired of being shorted you will hear a loud pop followed by a sulfuric acid shower any further questions?
Check fuses, check all connections do not push start.
The ONLY time I would ever suggest a push start is if your STARTER is broken.
This is almost as good as the fool that hydrolocked his **** and decided to push start it and wondered why it just skidded... guess highschool physics failed to teach him that water doesnt compress for ****.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FastSS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Shorting out a battery could possibly damage the charge plates causing an internal battery short.
Any charge put in via alternator will be wasted via the short and when the battery gets tired of being shorted you will hear a loud pop followed by a sulfuric acid shower any further questions?
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thats some jibberish right there dre. whats all this via via ****. u can only short out a battery once smartguy. if i fuse was blown then power from the alternator wouldnt make it to the battery anyway meaning it cant short out.
Any charge put in via alternator will be wasted via the short and when the battery gets tired of being shorted you will hear a loud pop followed by a sulfuric acid shower any further questions?
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thats some jibberish right there dre. whats all this via via ****. u can only short out a battery once smartguy. if i fuse was blown then power from the alternator wouldnt make it to the battery anyway meaning it cant short out.
u prbably already fixed the problem looks like everyone is already telling you to look at the main fuse. also check the ecu fuse. good luck !!!- newest member - tranceologist
In a lead acid battery (read: normal car battery) there are six cells, each consist of a lead plate and a lead dioxide plate, this is all submersed in a strong sulfuric acid electrolyte.
I would bore you with all the chemistry involved but the main point is that these six cells are wired together and that a sudden discharge can cause one or more cells to basically weld their plates together causing an internal short which can make for an absolute disaster.
Putting charge into a battery with an internal short can be fatal. Usually the jump vehicle is on long enough to supply the vehicle with enough voltage to run the starter through the jumper cables, once the car starts running that battery tries to charge and cant because it has an internal short, everything gets hot and presto its rice flambé.
Check your fuses; check your all of your main charging and starting system connections. I usually take everything off that I can and brass or steel brush it to make sure the connection is good, it doesn’t take much to disturb the flow of electrons. If you are not getting cabin power, disconnect the battery and run a continuity test between the positive and negative battery leads, with the car off, doors shut and all that good stuff there should be none. If there is any run an ohm check. If there is less resistance than a standard automotive light bulb then something is up.
If everything checks out run that same continuity test on the battery, last I checked, and I could be wrong, it’s getting late and I’m fairly ill, you shouldn’t get anything.
Good luck and happy hunting.
Two grounds run your entire car, one from the battery to the chassis and the other from the battery to the starter (switched)
If you are not getting cabin power and the battery is in fact fine, make sure the chassis ground is getting connection. It is a really weanie wire to be taking on the electrical load of the entire car. I guess no one told the fine folks at honda that electricity flows negative to positive and that ground wires should be at least almost as big as +12 wires.
I would bore you with all the chemistry involved but the main point is that these six cells are wired together and that a sudden discharge can cause one or more cells to basically weld their plates together causing an internal short which can make for an absolute disaster.
Putting charge into a battery with an internal short can be fatal. Usually the jump vehicle is on long enough to supply the vehicle with enough voltage to run the starter through the jumper cables, once the car starts running that battery tries to charge and cant because it has an internal short, everything gets hot and presto its rice flambé.
Check your fuses; check your all of your main charging and starting system connections. I usually take everything off that I can and brass or steel brush it to make sure the connection is good, it doesn’t take much to disturb the flow of electrons. If you are not getting cabin power, disconnect the battery and run a continuity test between the positive and negative battery leads, with the car off, doors shut and all that good stuff there should be none. If there is any run an ohm check. If there is less resistance than a standard automotive light bulb then something is up.
If everything checks out run that same continuity test on the battery, last I checked, and I could be wrong, it’s getting late and I’m fairly ill, you shouldn’t get anything.
Good luck and happy hunting.
Two grounds run your entire car, one from the battery to the chassis and the other from the battery to the starter (switched)
If you are not getting cabin power and the battery is in fact fine, make sure the chassis ground is getting connection. It is a really weanie wire to be taking on the electrical load of the entire car. I guess no one told the fine folks at honda that electricity flows negative to positive and that ground wires should be at least almost as big as +12 wires.
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