I've been trying to figure out my suspension setup, and I have everything figured out except the swaybars. If I upgrade to a larger swaybar in the rear, do I need a larger one in front to compensate? Or, would it depend on personal preference? I think a little oversteer could definately help out on a FF CRX, but I don't want the rear end to just swing out uncontrolably. What do you think?
Thanks

 

before you try to do a rear sway swap try to loosen your front sway almost all the way but leave some threads for good measure. im sure you can find an article desctribing this. . . just an idea thats what i did and it was an improvement but still wasnt what i was looking for. some people are very happy just doing this and it works for them. me, more is better. ive heard that loosening your stock front and getting a suspension tech rear sway is the "best combo" for what applications i dont know, but thats what ive heard. also heard replaceing the front with a larger hence stiffer is a good improvement on longer cars but because of the lenght of a crx it is horrible and is a disimprovement rather than improvement which is the one that youd want. yeah so um im sure that doesnt help any but hell give it a shot its really easy to do and seems to help compared to how much time your commiting.
derek

 

I upgraded to a suspention tech 22mm rear swaybar. And personally was damn glad i did. if i hit a 90 degree turn ( left turn only no LSD yet ) at about 30+ mph i can really swing the backend out. the oversteer is a lot of fun and yes it helped out around the turns but the front still dips. I have already order a 22mm front sway bar to help with this. and if the front is as notice able as the rear then im going to be having a lot of fun. btw the sus tech rear sway bar is adjustable. 3 settings 1) understeer. 2) a little more oversteer than stock. 3) and major f*cking oversteer. get one and have some fun with it.

 

You might want to checkout http://hybrid.honda-perf.org/eds/joered1.html
good article
HTH
chris

 

anybody else just upgraded the rear with good results. I have to do something soon, my b16 ef has massive understeer, feels like a snow plow.

 

Same problem here my CRX is crazy nose heavy with the B16. I want to buy the rear suspension techniques rear bar but all I can find anywhere is the kit which includes the front and the rear. Does anybody know where I can buy just the rear?

 

http://www.lightningmotorsports.com sells the ST bars individually. The rear 22mm costs $137.90. You could also get a Progress rear sway, which are sold individually. They're more expensive than ST though and use a different mounting scheme which = PITA to install.

 

thanks for the link.

I wanted the suspension techniques one since it is adjustable, I don't know if the Progress one is or not.

 

remember DA suspension bolts up. i've got a stock DA front sway waitin to go in right now. it makes the crx front sway look like a toothpick. i've heard this with a ST rear sway is a pretty good combo.

 

first i paid 150.00+ s/h. 137.90 is a very good price. and second i just bought a DA front bar as well but do yourself a favor and get new bushings before you put it in. thats all im waiting for. other wise it wont feel or work THAT much better.
oh and one last thing. it might be a fluke. But my rear struts blew a couple days after install of rear bar. ??? now they knock all over the place and the ride really sux. im not sure if the ST bar was responcible. The struts sucked anyway.

 

here's a visual for you:


ST rear sway bar. It's worth it. Adjustable. Is proven. and with a disconnected front bar, makes the car pivot with sun-rising surity.

 

What is the difference in size of the DA front sway bar compared to the EF? Just curious..

 

Anyone had any conflicts with the exhuast (specificly the 3" Thermal) hitting the sway bar?

Also how are the mounting positions different between the Progress and the ST?

-Seth

 

i took my front swaybar off this weekend and it wasnt hard to remove. it made a noticable improvement at low speed turns, the car dosent try to push as much coming out of the turn. at higher speeds i cant tell any difference. hope that helps.


[Modified by stockcrix1616, 1:12 AM 1/30/2002]

 

DA bar is 19mm and EF SI is 17mm i think could be wrong.
ST bar mounts to the strut because of the adjustment
i believe the progress uses factory mount postion. as for neuspeed as far as i know. i have a 2.5 inch thermal and is no where near the sway bar. and yes use of a rear tie bar is possible but i doubt you'd need it.
ST rear bar is the SH*T!!!

 

I might just get the st rear and buy poly for my front stock bar. That might be the best setup. Anybody racing with that setup?

 

my setup is:

removed front sway bar
Koni double-adjustables
intrax springs
ST rear sway bar
Matrix front and rear upper strut braces
Neuspeed lower rear strut brace
ES Hyperflex bushing kit
Prothane Trailing arm bushings
some groovy toe-in/toe-out (the biggest difference made in the way the car handles)

 

i am putting my stock front back on so if anyone wants a st front bar email me

 

Unfortunately sway bars are very much a driver preference as to what works best. You will also need to consider what the car will be used for.

As a general rule of thumb, you will want to stiffen the rear of a front wheel drive car to get the car to rotate in the turns. How much depends on the driver's preference and what the car is used for. If used for AX, most drivers want the rear very loose to get through the tight corners quicker. Wheel to wheel racers generally want this also but perhaps not as much.

I know of people road racing second gen CRXs with anything from pretty much only a stock rear sway bar and no front to several with extremely stiff bars on each end. Both sets are very fast on the tracks we run.

I would personnally increase the size of the rear bar some and adjustability is nice. If you are worried about the extra weight on the front because of an engine swap, get some stiffer front springs. Check out OPM motorsports and King Motorsports for sway bars and other racing suspension parts.

Good luck