My clutch is really starting to get to me. Everytime I press the clutch in I feel a slight spongey feeling same thing when I start releasing the pedal. The car could be on or off, in gear or out same thing either way. This has been going on for a little over 2 years now. I have bleed my clutch lines numerous times. I have replaced the slave once and the master twice. I have adjusted my clutch pedal numerous times as well. Does anyone know what I can do. Do you think it is not a hydraulic related issue? I was also wondering if I should just put in a new clutch and flywheel and see if that works? Any ideas please help.
Car has 69k miles.

 

get a new clutch line.

 

Unless the pipe is leaking, it should be ok. Could be a dodgy pressure plate. Just put in a 3 piece clutch kit. (clutch disc, pressure plate & bearing)

No need to change the flywheel, it has no effect on the moving end of the clutch, get it machined if it's scored or whatever though.

 

i was just referring to hose the clutch hose gets weak over time. the rubber part. it bulges when you hit the clutch pedal

 

Ok so if there is no leak then it most likely is not a hydraulic issue right? If I adjust the clutch pedal incorrectly would that lead to this problem or would it have no effect? When I say incorrectly I mean more like not having it set at the exact level from the floor which I think is 6.5 inches.

 

i'm banking on a spongy rubber line. just like brake lines get spongy over time, b/c when you put 2000psi through a piece of rubber, it does the rubbery thing and flexes away. you can probably go to a u-pull-it and get one for like $5

 

Where exactly is this rubber line? Are you talking about the rubber hose that goes from the MC to the MC Resevoir because I was under the impression that the rest of the lines are that thin metal tubing?

 

no, there is metal tube until it gets to the tranny, then there's a rubber section b/c the engine moves around a fair amount while driving, then it goes to metal tube again i think and into the slave cylinder.

 

Sounds good, Ill try and replace that hose this weekend and if that doesnt do it, do you guys suggest its time for a new clutch?

 

i say if it's not that, wait until you actually need a new clutch, then do that, and if it isn't that, don't worry about it. if it isn't the hose or the clutch, it's gotta be the master cylinder or booster or slave cylinder, and all that **** is more expensive, so unless it really really bothers you, don't fret.

 

Based on the suggestions stated above does anyone agree, disagree, have any other ideas. I do appreciate all the help given especially from 95lstegman but was wondering if anyone had any other ideas or has experienced what i have described. Thanks

 

I disagree with it being the clutch line. I have never heard of it being a problem with Hondas. I have worked on many early to mid '90s Hondas when they started using the clutch lines and I have never seen a problem with it. That hose is made of the same material as brake lines and they last many, many years.

I also don't think it's the slave or master cylinders or a hydraulic issue at all considering you replaced those parts and you have such little miles on the car. We replaced both on my brother's '95 GSR because his pedal was feeling odd and it made no change.

I'm thinking it's more your clutch disk. Both my brother's GSR and my GSR had funny pedal feel when we bought our cars. His was grabbing at different spots all the time and mine just had a strange feeling to it. It wasn't very precise. After we did clutches in both cars we examined both disks and noticed the same problem in both original Acura disks. The springs in the disk actually started to break free from their holdings and start to move around causing odd engaging in the clutch.

 

Actually, now that I reread your post, it must not be the disk because it does it when the car isn't on. Perhaps the pressure plate has something wrong with it.

I would have some other people feel your clutch so that they can give you their opinions. Maybe the feeling is normal? Maybe it is the clutch line, and yours is defective, it's just not likely IMO. Good luck.

 

wow, knowledgeable. do what he says on this one. i'm no clutch expert.

 

Hey Honda Hick, you had me smiling there for a minute. I thought you solved it. To be totally honest at one point I ruled out the hydraulic line because it would not do it when the car was off so I assumed it was the clutch since the clutch is the only thing spinning when the car is on. However, one day I decided to check it again. So after an hour drive to work I stopped in the parking lot, shut the car off and checked the pedal feel. At first it didn't do it but as I would continuing pressing it in and out it started to do it. So at this point I was lost. Mainly because now Im like, well it does it with the car off which means maybe it is a hydraulic issue. However, could it still be the disc or pressure plate even if it does it when the car is off. I ran out of ideas for issues related to the hyrdraulic system. I mean if the car has no visible leaks, my fluid never has lowered, and i replaced the master twice and slaved once, it has got to be the clutch right?

 

In addition, I have alot of the same symptoms you stated above. Did you cars have a funny feeling when the car was off or only when it was on? I know for sure that the feeling isnt normal. I have driven my dads 98 gsr, his s2000, and my brothers 00 gsr. None of those cars have the feeling that im talking about. So I am positive it is not normal. I was thinking of taking it to honda but im scared they are just going to want to change everything until they find the problem which is not very effective and easy on the pocket.

 

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The pressure plate moves in and out grabbing the disk if the car is off or on, so it could be that. I've never seen a PP go bad though truthfully, it's usually the disk.

I would do the line for the heck of it real quick, that's a cheap and quick try. It's $33 brand new from Sunnyside Acura so that isn't bad: http://www.acuraparts247.com/s...ch=no
Then you can rule that out.

If it persists then it has to be the clutch. There isn't really anything else it could be. I wouldn't bring it to Acura because you know for the price of them diagnosing the problem you could probably have a new clutch installed.

 

I really would be leaning towards the pressure plate on this one, I have seen them go bad before. The fingers can go weak over time. The pressure plate is very often the cause of a heavy clutch in older vehicles - although hydraulics can do the same from time to time.

Anyway back on subject...try changing that line first, it would be no harm to completely eliminate it. It isn't likely to be the disc since the problem occurs with or without the engine running.

 

looks like you need to buy my clutch and flywheel. Both new in box ACT units. $425 shipped to your door. Hurry it'll be gone by Friday!!!!!!!!

Sorry shamless plug, but i would by a clutch kit and replace the flywheel with a lightwieght unit while your there.

 

When you guys say replace the line do you mean just that rubber tube that was mentioned above earlier or do you mean everything including the metal small tubing that runs behind the firewall and around to the slave?

 

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just the rubber