Didn't succeed in the secuirty post might as well try here since Type-R's are layered with security...

which is better?

avantguard vs compustar?

Thanks,
Brian

 

avant if you really need all the options if not stick with the intelliguard 850. compustar is to big to conseal properly and not very self install friendly

and installation is key to any alarm system no matter how highend the system is.

 

Word! anymore opinions?

 

a tracking device of some sort such as boomerang, Lo-Jack Early Detection, or even the Clifford GPS, which will track your car as well when the time is in need. I'd go for Lo-Jack Early Detection before Boomerang (since they were bought out by Lo-Jack), but the Boomerang technology might be better than the early detection.

Clifford GPS is cool because you can track where your car is via web or just call and the automated message will tell you the location. if is stolen, you can tell them and they will start tracking as well.

I do like Avant Guard because it does come with Black Jax 5

I assume the Compustar is like the Clifford Matrix 2 way where it talks back to you should you be in the vicinity. The difference is that Compustar claims a longer range.

-Aoib0t, who always talks about security like cxShoe

 

as a japanese man would say "Sthank you"... damn checking on the avantguard5 its crazy so crazy that it dosent need a pager

what options should i get with avantguard5? so many to choose from...


Intellistart and Omnistart
With IntelliStart, you can start your car’s engine along with the heater, air conditioner and more. All with just a press of the * button on the G5 security system remote control. It’s the ultimate convenience accessory for blistering summer days and chilly winter mornings. Smart adaptability means IntelliStart can work with: gasoline or diesel, automatic transmission vehicles. Anti-theft measures allow the car to be driven only after your G5 security system has been disarmed and the car key turned on. If the alarm sounds while the engine is running, IntelliStart immediately shuts it down. StarterGuard prevents accidental starter grinding while IntelliStart is in control.

The AutoStart feature lets IntelliStart monitor either the temperature (when cold) or the battery voltage (if out of town for a few days) or both. If the temperature or voltage drop too low, IntelliStart will start the engine run to warm up and recharge. With the CliffNet Wizard software, you can even select the exact temperature and voltage levels.

Don’t need a security system but still want all the benefits of Clifford’s advanced remote engine starting technology? No problem. You simply need the G5 OmniStart system. It has all the advanced engine control features of IntelliStart , plus a pair of weatherproof remote controls. It even provides remote keyless entry control of the vehicle’s power locks. And, just to be on the safe side, it also has a built-in starter kill circuit to provide basic security.

Blackjax (already included)
Carjacking Response & Vehicle Recovery System
BlackJax is Clifford’s unique anti-carjacking response system that puts personal safety first while using innovative advancements to ensure that users can recover the vehicle themselves. If an armed car thief approaches – whether at a stoplight or in a parking lot (where most carjackings occur) – immediately turn over the keys and remote and let Clifford technology take over.

BlackJax is fully automatic: no buttons or transmitters to push when a gun is involved. Just get away from the vehicle. BlackJax allows the criminal to drive away a safe distance. Then, a few seconds later, BlackJax blares the siren and flashes the lights to alert other drivers and witnesses. It then pulses down the ignition system to safely force the vehicle to slow to a complete stop. Siren blaring and lights flashing, unable to restart the engine, the carjacker has no choice but to abandon the vehicle.

BlackJax offers immediate vehicle self-recovery. With the vehicle immobilized a short distance away, the owner can recover it. No special tracking units, monthly fees or per-use charges. Just follow the sound of the BlackJax siren, then enter the PIN code. That’s it – it’s sabotage-proof. The only way to turn off BlackJax is with a secret user-selectable PIN code. If the carjacker tries guessing codes at random, BlackJax actively ignores his code entries for the next few minutes. Even if he were to find and remove the BlackJax control unit, he would still be unable to restart the engine. That’s Clifford technology you can count on.

Wireless Immobilizer

The Ultimate in Anti-Theft
All Clifford G5 systems have a built-in starter interrupt circuit. In fact, all but our lowest priced models actually have two immobilizer circuits, one for the starter, another for the ignition system. That level of protection will throw virtually all car thieves for a loop. But Clifford’s amazing Wireless Immobilizer accessory makes the vehicle unstartable by even the most highly skilled car thieves. The Wireless Immobilizer interrupts yet another vital engine point, such as the fuel pump or fuel injection system, and does so without any wires for the thief to trace! It’s completely user-transparent, so there’s nothing special you ever need to do. But it’s like an invisible brick wall to even the most experienced and well-equipped car thieves.

Digital Tilt Sensor
Detects even minor lifting or rolling of the vehicle without any of the false alarms common to all other tilt and motion sensors. A must for vehicles with upgraded wheels and tires. Automatically self-adjusting.

Proximity Sensor
This digital signal processing (DSP) radar sensor’s outer perimeter warning zone provides an invisible shield up to a foot outside the closed windows and convertible top. The interior zone instantly blasts the full alarm if someone leans into the passenger compartment. Especially recommended for convertibles and other soft-sided or open vehicles.

Audio Sensor
Another Clifford DSP sensor, the G5 Audio Sensor identifies the sound of glass breaking attempts, and differentiates them from common noises that false alarm other glass sensors. The Audio Sensor even detects glass punch devices that quietly shatter windows without impact or vibration.

Omnisensor
A vibration/impact sensor with Clifford’s unique DSP algorithm. Dual sensing levels distinguish between attempted intrusion and less significant impacts. If someone bumps your car with their car door, a warning is sounded. If forced entry is detected, the full alarm sounds. Remotely adjustable. (Available only for higher-end models.)

Ultrasonic Sensor
The 509U Ultrasonic Sensor is used to provide coverage of a vehicle's interior cabin area. The sensors detect movement inside the vehicle by sensing air disturbance. They should trigger the alarm if a thief has gained access to the interior of your vehicle.


Smart Self-Powered Siren
Thieves’ Worst Enemy
The world’s most advanced and dependable siren for G5 systems. Its built-in battery allows this siren to keep on wailing even if the wires are cut! And its G5 Digital ComLink will detect wire tampering that thieves use to bypass other battery-backed sirens. Its smart charging system won’t drain your car battery like other sirens of this type. It will even warn you if the internal battery charge is very low. No override keys are needed like other such sirens. Provides Personalized Siren Sounds even on Clifford G5 security systems lacking that feature (selecting from among 15 different sounds via CliffNet Wizard.)


Which option sounds worthwhile?


Modified by IBriaIN at 1:19 PM 3/28/2005

 

don't get something that's too sensitive. I just enjoy driving around my work setting off people's alarms LOL (too sensitive).


I assume you don't want a remote start if you are driving a manual car.

Blackjax: can be bought separately from Clifford

Wireless Immobilizer

Good to have as a layer.

Digital Tilt Sensor
this is good for if your car is lifted. It will depend on if you get paged or not though.

Proximity Sensor
I think this causes too many false alarms. Not sure though.

Audio Sensor
hrm... don't know if you need this. If they do shatter glass, will the remote tell you? This would be handy of they just want to steal stuff from the vehicle. If they take it away, I think a lo-jack early detection is good.

Omnisensor
This one is good to have, but how will you know about the bump/forced entry? the remote?

Ultrasonic Sensor
Even if thieves gain access, will you get paged about this? This I am not sure.

Smart Self-Powered Siren
this can be a separate option from DEI

Oh, get some high pitched Piezo mini alarms inside your cabin Then again, maybe thieves are used to this too

I still think you will need a tracking device of some sort. Because if they tow/steal it, you may not know where it is. The tracking system should be able to help track it down better.

With the Lo-Jack early detection, I would assume you would know your car is towed/stolen within 15-30 minutes but not more than an hour. Once again, just another layer

-Aoib0t, who is hungry

 

i have computar 2way pager 2wss-r..1st when i got and installed..very nice out of 5 range out of 5 size out of 5 heh kinda big. but the sysytem was really nice. there are lots of pagers. but compustar u can add lots of futures on pager.
also one thing i like about it is, it has mute or sound. i dont want that go off during in class.lol also many other things to play with.
battery life isnt that bad. AA battery.BIG.lol i have to replace about 2 or 3 weeks. but if u can recharger ones..no problem.
my friend have pager one. i dont know what brand. but pager is tiny. only has lil things to play with. no mute. only ring type. just basic pager.

BUT: over time using. my pager got fuked. its just me,lol i dropped few times. range got lil fuked. so i have get replace soon or later..its about around $100 replace pager.

 

With the Matrix, I hear that's the same but the range isn't all there. It is small and i've seen (well, i think it was a viper version... same stuff), it just uses 1 AAA keep some in the car maybe? maybe in you backpack as well?

Another thing is if you use the vibe mode (quiet mode), i am told it uses more battery power. But like you said, no need for that stuf to be going off in class.


-aoib0t, who goes to test a hard drive.

 

more opinons guys

 

I have the avantguard4 on my car and love it. The proxi and omni sensors are adjustable. The intellistart is awesome even on a manual trans because the car needs to be out of gear when you shut it off for the auto start to work when you came back to the car later . Having a siren with it's own power supply is a must. Blackjax is cool but gets old. Clifford has always made awesome alarms. As mentioned above, the installation is as important if not more important than the equipment selection. Installing a basic alarm could be tackled by a novice installer, but my AG4 has smart windows up, smart windows down, stereo on, stereo off, individual door poppers, and the list goes on so I did not want to do it myself.

 

I have the avantguard 5, it rocks so much you do not even know.

 

While we're on the topic of alarms, can I add a module to one of the aux inputs on my compustar to add auto roll up/down windows? If so does anyone have a link to such a module? Thanks.

 

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ya i think u can do that.window down up, light on/off, sun roof, auto start..duh, remote drive like RC car..LMAO.. but u know it doesnt come with alarm. try autotoys.com and let them install or email compustar dealer for ur Question.

 

Yeah I've had the alarm for 2 years or so. Wouldn't mind having the window features if it's not expensive. I can install it myself I'd imagine.

 

I have a compustar and am happy with it. At the time, it was my only option to get some kind of alert if someone was messing with the car. Now I think Lojack has that option as well as a few others.

The range is great! That's the one feature I think this alarm has over the other alarms. If security is your main concern, it's nice to know when you car is being messed with. I can send/receive signals from the middle of the mall. Its also nice to warm up the engine and cool down the interior WELL in advance before getting to your car.