ok .. I have been doing some research on this and have some thoughts and just want to check with you guys to see if what I am thinking is right.
(I am going to be using the 89 accord front struts like everyone else, with H&R race springs)

1. I read that to help compensate for the front being lower (using the accord stocks) you can use the ef hatch koni yellows in the rear because they have an adjustable rear perch (or something along those lines) to help make the rear almost as low as the fronts with accord shocks.
2. I also saw the pic of the rear 89 wagon shock vs. the stock rear hatch strut and how the perch is lower but the body is the same size. actually causing you to have less travel .. you will just be lower.
Here is my question .. Is the koni yellow body shorter than a stock shock body? If not then it would be the same case as using the wagon rear stuck because you would just be lowering the perch on the koni with the same size body. (if it is shorter, that makes sense then that it would work)

I am using H&R race springs so I am not using C/Os so I don't have the ability of adjustment!!
Thanks in advance for any input and hopefully this will clear up some thoughts for both myself and maybe some others that were thinking the same!




Modified by sleeperx at 8:22 PM 3/28/2005

 

bump .. somebody ?? anybody ??

 

bump

 

ttt .. come on .. someone has to have some input on this

 

your question makes no sense and you have some typos that make it really hard to understand what the hell youre talking about, and what your objective is.

but from what i try to make sense out of your post, i tihnk you asked if koni shock bodies are any shorter than stock, and they arent. you can get them modified from koni to be made shorter, but not off the shelf.

 

sorry .. there was a lot going through my head at once and trying to get it all out ... I guess it just wasn't clear enough for you !!
Mainly what I was asking was ... People say not to use the wagon rears because the perch is lower than a hatch rear causing you to have limited travel remaining. After thinking about it .. wouldn't having C/Os be doing the same thing? (that is if you are just using lowering springs and not C/Os) If you use C/Os and lower the rear more in the rear to even out the ride height of using 89 accord struts up front, then you are lowering the adjustable spring perch and extra inch.
Does that make alittle more sense to you?

 

all your doing by adjusting the collars is compensating for the lower perch. if the perch is higher up the strut, you can bring the collar down more, if the perch is lower, the collar can be moved up. also, the koni's are ride height adjustable to an extent. they use a c-clip and i think it's 4 grooves in the strut in which you can raise or lower pearch. Also, i believe each groove is only 1/4" apart, so u have a total of 1" perch adjustability (May not be exact but i <U>think</U> i'm right). as for using the accord struts, y not just buy a set of cheap but decent collars & springs and run the stock struts. You can buy the aerospeed kit for like 100 bucks or less. (I'm assuming you don't want to buy high end aftermarket struts and springs) W/ the collars you can slam the car if you want while still maintaining your stock crx/civic parts. just a thought. oh yeah, and koni's are WAY better then the stock stuff anyday.

 

I already own H&R race srings. The reason that you use the accord front struts because it allows your to be lower yet still not have the strut compressed as much as a civic strut due to the fact that the perch is lower yet the body as well is shorter. I love the H&R product and like the idea of using the accord front struts (probably going to with Bilsteins) I just don't want the front of the car slammed and the rear an inch higher. I understand that you can get sleeves and adjust them ( by lowering the perch) but in my opinion you are compressing the rear strut more by doing so. I would rather try to find a strut that has a shorter body for the rear and cut the perch and reweld it in a lower position ( kinda making it like the front accord struts). I just have not been able to find a shorter body strut yet. People say to get sleeves and lower the rear to match the front, but once again you are going to be compressing the rear strut even more. I want to look very low, but also have outstanding handling. I am just trying to figure out a way to do that and still have the rear strut not compressed a high amount.

 

oh, i guess i misunderstood u. sorry. If you want to spend the $$$, koni and i'm sure plenty others offer revalved and shortend (sp?) struts to compensate for the lower stance/stiffer springs while still giving you a fully functional strut. not sure how low you can go before making these usles but i'd assume it would be real low.
good luck!!

 

ok. confusing post but this is what I am doing. According to koni rep;
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX Lee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The middle one of the five is stock and there are two each grooves to raise or lower the car a bit more. The grooves are in 8mm increments so the effect of each groove is in the ballpark of an additional half inch but three are other factors that can make that not exact.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I plan to run H&R race on highest perch. You can get the stiffer spring rates without coilovers and not be dumped at the same time. In theory my car with be close to the same height as sport springs. I currently have koni's(middle perch) with eibach sportlines. I hope to change to H&R race and have same or higher ride height as now with perches. just an idea.