10pt Cage install in my CRX...need some tips...
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10pt Cage install in my CRX...need some tips...
Were getting ready to fab in our 10pt cage setup into my 91 CRX, but I'm not so excitted about getting those bars through the dash.
I want to keep as much stock parts there, yet still be NHRA legal (duh).
Just wondering if there are any "easy" ways of routing those pipes through the dash.
I want to keep as much stock parts there, yet still be NHRA legal (duh).
Just wondering if there are any "easy" ways of routing those pipes through the dash.
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Re: 10pt Cage install in my CRX...need some tips... (Bryson)
None that I've seen.
Question, where are the last 2 points? I honestly just don't know.
One's I can think of -
2 Main Roll Hope
2 Rear Bracing
2 Main front runners, the one's through the dash
2 From front runners, via door bars, to front shock towers.
Where are the last 2?
Question, where are the last 2 points? I honestly just don't know.
One's I can think of -
2 Main Roll Hope
2 Rear Bracing
2 Main front runners, the one's through the dash
2 From front runners, via door bars, to front shock towers.
Where are the last 2?
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Re: 10pt Cage install in my CRX...need some tips... (Goullish)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Goullish »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">None that I've seen.
Question, where are the last 2 points? I honestly just don't know.
One's I can think of -
2 Main Roll Hope
2 Rear Bracing
2 Main front runners, the one's through the dash
2 From front runners, via door bars, to front shock towers.
Where are the last 2?</TD></TR></TABLE>
2 from mid-way up main hoop towards center of the car
As far as tips go... if you need tips to fabricate a roll cage you probably shouldn't be installing one.
Take the dash out, fit up and weld in cage, cut out holes in dash to reinstall.
Question, where are the last 2 points? I honestly just don't know.
One's I can think of -
2 Main Roll Hope
2 Rear Bracing
2 Main front runners, the one's through the dash
2 From front runners, via door bars, to front shock towers.
Where are the last 2?</TD></TR></TABLE>
2 from mid-way up main hoop towards center of the car
As far as tips go... if you need tips to fabricate a roll cage you probably shouldn't be installing one.
Take the dash out, fit up and weld in cage, cut out holes in dash to reinstall.
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Re: 10pt Cage install in my CRX...need some tips... (Bryson)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just wondering if there are any "easy" ways of routing those pipes through the dash. </TD></TR></TABLE>
do you mean the a-pillar tubes or the cross peice that is under the dash connecting both of them together (not in pic)?
Either way the dash is gunna have to come off in order to get a nice result.
My suggesting is to measure the dash angle relative to the a-pillar, cut a peice of tubing at that angle. Then take the tube that you cut, line it up on the dash and trace around it. Then when you have the dash off you know exactly what needs to come off.
Rich
P.S. Ive been looking at roll-cages for some time now, and never got the way you can label a cage as a "6-point", 12-point", etc... is it just how many corners there are facing outwards? or am I completely lost?
</TD></TR></TABLE>do you mean the a-pillar tubes or the cross peice that is under the dash connecting both of them together (not in pic)?
Either way the dash is gunna have to come off in order to get a nice result.
My suggesting is to measure the dash angle relative to the a-pillar, cut a peice of tubing at that angle. Then take the tube that you cut, line it up on the dash and trace around it. Then when you have the dash off you know exactly what needs to come off.
Rich
P.S. Ive been looking at roll-cages for some time now, and never got the way you can label a cage as a "6-point", 12-point", etc... is it just how many corners there are facing outwards? or am I completely lost?
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Re: 10pt Cage install in my CRX...need some tips... (SJcivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SJcivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
do you mean the a-pillar tubes or the cross peice that is under the dash connecting both of them together (not in pic)?
Either way the dash is gunna have to come off in order to get a nice result.
My suggesting is to measure the dash angle relative to the a-pillar, cut a peice of tubing at that angle. Then take the tube that you cut, line it up on the dash and trace around it. Then when you have the dash off you know exactly what needs to come off.
Rich
P.S. Ive been looking at roll-cages for some time now, and never got the way you can label a cage as a "6-point", 12-point", etc... is it just how many corners there are facing outwards? or am I completely lost?
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Thanks. Yeah, because the whole dash has to come out, i might just wait until next season to complete the cage. I can put in the 6pt no problem, but getting those front bars in would definetly take some time.
The cage is labled by a "6pt" or a "10pt"...ect, by how many bars are attached to the foor. In the previous pic of the 10pt, there are 10 bars all welded to the floor.
do you mean the a-pillar tubes or the cross peice that is under the dash connecting both of them together (not in pic)?
Either way the dash is gunna have to come off in order to get a nice result.
My suggesting is to measure the dash angle relative to the a-pillar, cut a peice of tubing at that angle. Then take the tube that you cut, line it up on the dash and trace around it. Then when you have the dash off you know exactly what needs to come off.
Rich
P.S. Ive been looking at roll-cages for some time now, and never got the way you can label a cage as a "6-point", 12-point", etc... is it just how many corners there are facing outwards? or am I completely lost?
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Thanks. Yeah, because the whole dash has to come out, i might just wait until next season to complete the cage. I can put in the 6pt no problem, but getting those front bars in would definetly take some time.
The cage is labled by a "6pt" or a "10pt"...ect, by how many bars are attached to the foor. In the previous pic of the 10pt, there are 10 bars all welded to the floor.
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Re: 10pt Cage install in my CRX...need some tips... (SJcivic)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SJcivic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
P.S. Ive been looking at roll-cages for some time now, and never got the way you can label a cage as a "6-point", 12-point", etc... is it just how many corners there are facing outwards? or am I completely lost?
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Count how many points intersect with the chassis.
P.S. Ive been looking at roll-cages for some time now, and never got the way you can label a cage as a "6-point", 12-point", etc... is it just how many corners there are facing outwards? or am I completely lost?
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Count how many points intersect with the chassis.
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Re: 10pt Cage install in my CRX...need some tips... (adictionbass)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adictionbass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How fast you plan on running bryson
In a crx.... dippin into the 10s?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Definetly 10s. How far into the 10s, I'm not really sure of...but of course, the quicker the better. However, I'm mainly concerned about trapping over 135. Over 135, they require the full 10pt.
In a crx.... dippin into the 10s?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Definetly 10s. How far into the 10s, I'm not really sure of...but of course, the quicker the better. However, I'm mainly concerned about trapping over 135. Over 135, they require the full 10pt.
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Re: 10pt Cage install in my CRX...need some tips... (adictionbass)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adictionbass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If i put all my **** (if i ever get it running) id probably be dipping into the 10s, but im in a heavy *** del sol 
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hehe...I hear ya man. I still need to get my head rebuilt...
The car currently sits in peices. I can only hope to have it together in time for race day.
</TD></TR></TABLE>hehe...I hear ya man. I still need to get my head rebuilt...
The car currently sits in peices. I can only hope to have it together in time for race day.
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Re: 10pt Cage install in my CRX...need some tips... (Goullish)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by backpurge »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
2 from mid-way up main hoop towards center of the car
As far as tips go... if you need tips to fabricate a roll cage you probably shouldn't be installing one.
Take the dash out, fit up and weld in cage, cut out holes in dash to reinstall.</TD></TR></TABLE>
is there anyway to modify the horizontal bar that goes through the main hoop so that ppl can still get in the back seat? like a swing out or some of the pin/hinge systems like the one adictionbass uses?
2 from mid-way up main hoop towards center of the car
As far as tips go... if you need tips to fabricate a roll cage you probably shouldn't be installing one.
Take the dash out, fit up and weld in cage, cut out holes in dash to reinstall.</TD></TR></TABLE>
is there anyway to modify the horizontal bar that goes through the main hoop so that ppl can still get in the back seat? like a swing out or some of the pin/hinge systems like the one adictionbass uses?
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Re: 10pt Cage install in my CRX...need some tips... (wantboost)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
is there anyway to modify the horizontal bar that goes through the main hoop so that ppl can still get in the back seat? like a swing out or some of the pin/hinge systems like the one adictionbass uses?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't think so. The side bars can swing out, but that won't help getting into the back seats. The middle bar, and main hoop need to be welded...thus, no beuno.
is there anyway to modify the horizontal bar that goes through the main hoop so that ppl can still get in the back seat? like a swing out or some of the pin/hinge systems like the one adictionbass uses?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't think so. The side bars can swing out, but that won't help getting into the back seats. The middle bar, and main hoop need to be welded...thus, no beuno.
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Re: 10pt Cage install in my CRX...need some tips... (Goullish)
oh well, looks like my passengers get to do the gymnastic flex routine to get into the backseat, lol
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Re: 10pt Cage install in my CRX...need some tips... (wantboost)
I'm not sure it would be NHRA legal if you hinged that piece in the main hoop because of lateral support but check up on that. Ive seen the door bar hinged in a couple of cars. I hepled a friend do it in an MKIV a couple years back but heavent seen it much since then. I'd rather be safe then worry about passengers in a 10 second car. Just my.02.
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Re: 10pt Cage install in my CRX...need some tips... (wantboost)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh well, looks like my passengers get to do the gymnastic flex routine to get into the backseat, lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
sorry to point out the obvious, but thats a bad idea.
you would feel pretty bad I'm sure if you were in an accident with people in the back seat and a roll bar in your car. . .
sorry to point out the obvious, but thats a bad idea.
you would feel pretty bad I'm sure if you were in an accident with people in the back seat and a roll bar in your car. . .
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Re: 10pt Cage install in my CRX...need some tips... (743power)
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sorry to point out the obvious, but thats a bad idea.
you would feel pretty bad I'm sure if you were in an accident with people in the back seat and a roll bar in your car. . .</TD></TR></TABLE>
haha, yea. i thought about that... ( i would feel bad, but isnt the bck seat of a civic the banishing place for those you dont like, lol ((((JK))))) but i might throw in some 4-points back there too, never be too safe
sorry to point out the obvious, but thats a bad idea.
you would feel pretty bad I'm sure if you were in an accident with people in the back seat and a roll bar in your car. . .</TD></TR></TABLE>
haha, yea. i thought about that... ( i would feel bad, but isnt the bck seat of a civic the banishing place for those you dont like, lol ((((JK))))) but i might throw in some 4-points back there too, never be too safe
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Re: 10pt Cage install in my CRX...need some tips... (wantboost)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
haha, yea. i thought about that... ( i would feel bad, but isnt the bck seat of a civic the banishing place for those you dont like, lol ((((JK))))) but i might throw in some 4-points back there too, never be too safe</TD></TR></TABLE>
honestly, that doesnt sound like a good idea either. A cage is meant to protect the front passenger(s) only.
haha, yea. i thought about that... ( i would feel bad, but isnt the bck seat of a civic the banishing place for those you dont like, lol ((((JK))))) but i might throw in some 4-points back there too, never be too safe</TD></TR></TABLE>
honestly, that doesnt sound like a good idea either. A cage is meant to protect the front passenger(s) only.
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Re: 10pt Cage install in my CRX...need some tips... (743power)
oh well, **** it... one passenger, lol
now, can you modify the rear downtubes so they mount to the rear shock towers... but pass through the rear plastic panels instead of the seats?
now, can you modify the rear downtubes so they mount to the rear shock towers... but pass through the rear plastic panels instead of the seats?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh well, **** it... one passenger, lol
now, can you modify the rear downtubes so they mount to the rear shock towers... but pass through the rear plastic panels instead of the seats?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats how my freind has his 6pt cage setup in his 1st gen talon...so It must be legal. He took a class on how to build cages, and they covered the NHRA specs...so I'm fairly sure it is.
now, can you modify the rear downtubes so they mount to the rear shock towers... but pass through the rear plastic panels instead of the seats?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats how my freind has his 6pt cage setup in his 1st gen talon...so It must be legal. He took a class on how to build cages, and they covered the NHRA specs...so I'm fairly sure it is.
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