PM-Performance

I went up to the shop today to go over how we're going to do the cage. now if i do like an 8pt cage and go around the contours of the stock dash am i going to have much room to sqeeze in ? With the integra dashes they stick out far sothe bars willkinda be in the way from what i heard. Also i guess i would have to relocate my gauges on the pillar? also i run SParco Tourino Seats. i dont know if i can get the side bars to a legal height with becuase of the weay the bolsters stick out soo far and having to keep the door panels.
Any suggestions or Pictures?

jinxproof99

have the cage go through the dash.

99blackcivicSi

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what he said that is what i am going to have done just looks cleaner and easier getting in and out and what not.

PM-Performance

i wanted tostay away from that if possible becuase i dont wanna **** with any wiring i have behind the dash .
also what do you do withthe gauges you have on the pillar? just relocate them ?

99blackcivicSi

You have teg right? ok

Guage Bezel (2 guages)
Then 2 guages in the Dimmer switch and the other hole right by the steering colomn

that looks really good and you could always make a braket for the guages and put them on the a pillar cage bar i have seen it done both ways, the Abacus car has a few hooked to the cage, and Fisher also has 1 guage hooked to the cage. All in what you feel comfordable with and what you thinks looks good.

Quik Chris

With 8 point, you have to go through the dash, that's the NHRA spec that it attaches to the firewall. You're going to have to pull your dash out to do it, and it's easier to put up with the wiring that way. Why are you doing an 8 point, is it for road racing? Or are you going to hit 9.99's?

99blackcivicSi

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Quik Chris &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With 8 point, you have to go through the dash, that's the NHRA spec that it attaches to the firewall. You're going to have to pull your dash out to do it, and it's easier to put up with the wiring that way. Why are you doing an 8 point, is it for road racing? Or are you going to hit 9.99's?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No he prolly is not shooting that high for starters but to be competitive you have to be running over 135 which a Cage is mandotory for NDRA and NHRA. (Section 4.20 in NDRA rule book)

PM-Performance

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No he prolly is not shooting that high for starters but to be competitive you have to be running over 135 which a Cage is mandotory for NDRA and NHRA. (Section 4.20 in NDRA rule book)</TD></TR></TABLE>
im shooting for low 10's to be competitive, but yea over 135 you need a cage

99blackcivicSi

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im shooting for low 10's to be competitive, but yea over 135 you need a cage</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey same here good to know another new guy to Sportfwd will be out next year trying his best. Good luck hope to see you out there.

PM-Performance

what about the side bar fitting with the bi bolstered seats? any experiences with that ?

SIXTYdashONE

Whats bolstered mean? . The way my cage is, the seat is wide on the top, so the cage kinda wraps around it, then angles in so the door doesnt hit it, i could show u pics if u want.

PM-Performance

well Ron that would be sooo very ncie of you
All Sparcos i saw have huge *** bolsters up top like in the shoulder area. The guy building the cage said its gonna be a bitch to get the side bars around them .i suggested going right under where that shoulder hump is, but it might not meet regulations

SIXTYdashONE

Ok, you asked for it

PM-Performance

dude, that looks like a **** to get in and out of. could you have legally made the side bars anylower?

SIXTYdashONE

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1. Any **** is worth geting into

2. I could have made it lower if god made me 100lbs lighter, im a big guy and the seat sits me up high, so therefore, the bar was contourly (or lack thereof) made around me sitting in the car

3. Its legal, never had a problem

PM-Performance

yea this damn wedge engineering mount sits me up kinda high,. im6ft 205, so im not so tiny anymore either

SIXTYdashONE

Its not bad to get in and out, you get used to it after a while.

Stunna BEN

Could you make one with removable bars at the doors or does it have to be a solid weld? I have seen many local v8 guys doing those...

PM-Performance

you can , but thays extra$$$$$ for the hardware.

slowsi00

yeah i got to get some swingouts if i get a cage i am to fat for no swing outs.

saso

I am pretty big myself 220 lb 5.11 I get into a cage worse than that in my race car. Lets face it even a bucket seat and no bars its gonna be a bitch to get in and out. If you are gonna run a 8pt cage may as well make a custom dash. Use dzus fastners so you can access everything easy. Other wise keep it a street monster.

PM-Performance

its gotta remain a street car though, thats the thing, . keeping the dash on zeus fasteners and gauges in it for some reason dont sound right to me , im keeping all my vents and climate control and electronic ****.

99blackcivicSi

He has to have an OEM factory dash no aluminum dashes, everything has to remain factory look. I have been in and out of a few caged car i am the exact same size as saso and i don't have a problem in fact i like the challange

PM-Performance

i dont like the challenge that much since i still drive my car. once and a while i like to take it to work on nice Fridays or weekends. Too much unconfort will make me not wanna drive it anymore.

99blackcivicSi

I don't think it is a challange you just have to get a method of getting in and out of the car you can't get it in like you used to (put your butt down then turn around) it isn't hard. It is nice and cozy in a caged car.