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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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Default ATTN: EVERYONE with a b16a2 in a 96-98 CIVIC i need some help!!!

Ok here's what i got for you:

I have a 1997 CX and am swapping a B16A2 from a 2000 SI.

I need wiring help...

Do i use the 2000 si harness? and will it plug right into my CX?
Do i use the 2000 si ECU?
Do i need an obd2b - obd2a jumper harness for this to work correctly?

JUST TELL ME WHAT YOU DID WITH YOUR SWAP PLEASE.
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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Default Re: ATTN: EVERYONE with a b16a2 in a 96-98 CIVIC i need some help!!! (^CX_d16)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ^CX_d16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok here's what i got for you:

I have a 1997 CX and am swapping a B16A2 from a 2000 SI.

I need wiring help...

Do i use the 2000 si harness? and will it plug right into my CX? NO use the cx harness

Do i use the 2000 si ECU? you can but you need a 2a to 2b jumper
Do i need an obd2b - obd2a jumper harness for this to work correctly? yes

JUST TELL ME WHAT YOU DID WITH YOUR SWAP PLEASE.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 08:42 PM
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Default Re: ATTN: EVERYONE with a b16a2 in a 96-98 CIVIC i need some help!!! (boostedcivicsir)

what does that mean?

EDIT: i didnt see the answers lol.... the CX harness isnt gonna work, no VTEC
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 10:31 PM
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Dude I think you have to add the VTEC solenoid wires. Seriously try searching.
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 11:39 PM
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Default Re: ATTN: EVERYONE with a b16a2 in a 96-98 CIVIC i need some help!!! (HalfAnP)

yeah ur gonna need to either add the wires to ur harness or get a 96-98 ex harness, cause i think u also need to add knock sensor wires. the ex harness already has all those wires
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 11:45 PM
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Default Re: ATTN: EVERYONE with a b16a2 in a 96-98 CIVIC i need some help!!! (^CX_d16)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ^CX_d16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok here's what i got for you:

I have a 1997 CX and am swapping a B16A2 from a 2000 SI.

I need wiring help...

Do i use the 2000 si harness? and will it plug right into my CX?
Do i use the 2000 si ECU?
Do i need an obd2b - obd2a jumper harness for this to work correctly?

JUST TELL ME WHAT YOU DID WITH YOUR SWAP PLEASE.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No you can't just use the 2000 si harness from what I know...I know you have to modify you harness and change pins around. Also you will need a manual so you can connect your sensors vtec/oil pressure/knock/ect. Are you going the smog legal route of just slap that baby in and run? and expect to run around 14.8's to 15.4's with i/h/e. My friends 98 ek ran 14.5's with a 00 b16a2 with ctr cams i/h/e. But it was blessed...Extremely low mileage b16a2.
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Old Mar 11, 2005 | 11:50 PM
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Default Re: ATTN: EVERYONE with a b16a2 in a 96-98 CIVIC i need some help!!! (civic2slo)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ReDHaTcHy97 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah ur gonna need to either add the wires to ur harness or get a 96-98 ex harness, cause i think u also need to add knock sensor wires. the ex harness already has all those wires </TD></TR></TABLE>

ya i thought i needed an ex harness, im pretty sure ill go that route, im not gonna run pins from my ecu for vtec, too ghetto

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HalfAnP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dude I think you have to add the VTEC solenoid wires. Seriously try searching.</TD></TR></TABLE>

**** you, i'm not just adding a few wires, i wanna do it right and run a ex harness, unless the si one will work, then i am pretty sure i need to extend a couple sensors.

so it'll work if i run an obd2a to b jumper?
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 04:39 AM
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Default Re: ATTN: EVERYONE with a b16a2 in a 96-98 CIVIC i need some help!!! (^CX_d16)

I believe you can swap the whole SI harness in, they are both one piece, just different ecu plugs (OBD2B instead of A). Or you could use a 99-00 EX harness.
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 05:46 AM
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When I did my b16 swap in my 97 LX i just dropped it in and i didnt have to do any wiring. I dont know how different the wiring harness is to my LX harness.
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 06:31 AM
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Default Re: ATTN: EVERYONE with a b16a2 in a 96-98 CIVIC i need some help!!! (shifty35)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by shifty35 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe you can swap the whole SI harness in, they are both one piece, just different ecu plugs (OBD2B instead of A). Or you could use a 99-00 EX harness.</TD></TR></TABLE>

the interior harnesses are different. it is way too much work to try to make the Si harness work in a 97. use the cx harness, run the wires you need to and you are golden. it is cake.
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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Default Re: ATTN: EVERYONE with a b16a2 in a 96-98 CIVIC i need some help!!! (^CX_d16)

You're a dick. If you had tried searching you'd see that what I said is the exact same thing most people are saying. Quit bleeding, or would you like a tampon?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedcivicsir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

the interior harnesses are different. it is way too much work to try to make the Si harness work in a 97. use the cx harness, run the wires you need to and you are golden. it is cake.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ReDHaTcHy97 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah ur gonna need to either add the wires to ur harness or get a 96-98 ex harness, cause i think u also need to add knock sensor wires. the ex harness already has all those wires </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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Default Re: ATTN: EVERYONE with a b16a2 in a 96-98 CIVIC i need some help!!! (HalfAnP)

I PUT A B16A2 IN MY BOYS EK 98 CX WE USE HIS STOCK WIRE HARNESS AND RAN A WIRE FROM THE SOLENOID TO THE ECU NOT HARRD
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by REEMB18C1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I PUT A B16A2 IN MY BOYS EK 98 CX WE USE HIS STOCK WIRE HARNESS AND RAN A WIRE FROM THE SOLENOID TO THE ECU NOT HARRD</TD></TR></TABLE>

A noobie just schooled you.
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 05:10 PM
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Default Re: ATTN: EVERYONE with a b16a2 in a 96-98 CIVIC i need some help!!! (95excoupe)

lol i don't want to re-pin my ECu, or splice into those wires, damn peaople.

I wanna run a harness tha thas vtec, and most likely run a jumper, i don't wanna hack up my stock harness
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Old Mar 12, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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now good luck finding a 97ex wiring harness , but hey i got a 97 gsr ecu for sale, ran it w/my b16 in my ek before i went 0bd1,
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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Default Re: ATTN: EVERYONE with a b16a2 in a 96-98 CIVIC i need some help!!! (ReDHaTcHy97)

i know most poeple say to swap the harness with an obd2a, but does anyone know what wires you need to change on the obd2b harness to make it work in a 96 with an obd2b ecu?
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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Default Re: ATTN: EVERYONE with a b16a2 in a 96-98 CIVIC i need some help!!! (^CX_d16)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ^CX_d16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol i don't want to re-pin my ECu, or splice into those wires, damn peaople.

I wanna run a harness tha thas vtec, and most likely run a jumper, i don't wanna hack up my stock harness</TD></TR></TABLE>

You need to only run three wires!!!

- VTEC Solenoid
- VTEC Oil Pressure Switch
- Knock Sensor

Even if you get an EX harness, you need to add a knock sensor.
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 12:49 AM
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Default Re: ATTN: EVERYONE with a b16a2 in a 96-98 CIVIC i need some help!!! (BlueIntegraBoy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueIntegraBoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You need to only run three wires!!!

- VTEC Solenoid
- VTEC Oil Pressure Switch
- Knock Sensor

Even if you get an EX harness, you need to add a knock sensor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I just picked up an EX harness, already has a knock sensor plug. d16y8 has knock sensors too, i believe. You wan't a clean stock wiring set up.? Pick one up for your hatch. 96-98 EX manual!

You can run the SI ecu but you may need the obd2a--&gt;obd2b conv. harness. OR just get a obd2a CTR or ITR ecu, plugged right up to your EX harness.

btw, my friend has an extra 98 ex vtec manual engine harness. he might sell it.
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 03:53 AM
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its a pain in the *** the first time you do it!
i could sell you everything you need to make this plug and play
i totaled my 99 hatch
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 06:40 AM
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All you have to do is this. You car is a 97 right. use a 96-98 EX M/T wiring harness. It will plug right up plug for plug.. All you gotta then do is run the wires to the ECU and buy yourself a obd-2a to obd-2b conversion harness which is also plug and play. You can get one at http://www.locashracing.com
that way you can use the Si ECU because its obd-2b
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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yup 96-98 EX m/t wire harness, will plug and play perfect
get a obd2a-b harness if you want to use the 99-00 si ecu, or find a p30 and go obd1 with a obd2-1 harness.
good luck

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by meanB6teen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When I did my b16 swap in my 97 LX i just dropped it in and i didnt have to do any wiring. I dont know how different the wiring harness is to my LX harness. </TD></TR></TABLE>

and i bet it runs real good
LX have the same harness as dx/cx, which means no vtec and iacv is 3 wire instead of 2, so how did you just drop it in with no wiring?
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 11:14 PM
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Default Re: ATTN: EVERYONE with a b16a2 in a 96-98 CIVIC i need some help!!! (^CX_d16)

wheres my stuff you said you were going to send?
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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Default Re: ATTN: EVERYONE with a b16a2 in a 96-98 CIVIC i need some help!!! (^CX_d16)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ^CX_d16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok here's what i got for you:

I have a 1997 CX and am swapping a B16A2 from a 2000 SI.

I need wiring help...

Do i use the 2000 si harness? and will it plug right into my CX?
Do i use the 2000 si ECU?
Do i need an obd2b - obd2a jumper harness for this to work correctly?

JUST TELL ME WHAT YOU DID WITH YOUR SWAP PLEASE.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmmm well first i stopped scamming people. SCAMMER!
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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yes heres proof check this

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1194577
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Old Mar 30, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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I second that
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