i'm rebuilding my h22a tranny.
i'm putting my quaife in, and with the new bearings i need to check the preload on them.
i need a particular honda tool to do this. it has it's own part number and everything.
honda wont sell it to me. i've tried five different dealerships.
honda wont do the service themselves because they dont have the tool.
honda america tells me they cant help because they dont sell parts.
i even tried aamco. they said 'just do it by feel'. we're talking about the difference between maybe .087 and .083 inch, and i'm gonna do it by 'feel'? no thanks.

anyone got some ideas?

most people i've spoken to say just to use the same thrust shim that came out. no thanks.

i'm clueless here. i'm about to tear an axle apart, get the welder and make my own tool.

 

can you do it with a feeler gauge? If there is a feeler gauge that goes down to .004 mm

 

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.004 inch

 

feeler guage is useless because with the roller bearing there is always contact with it's outer race. what you need to do is measure the tension on the diff created by the shims.

the .004 difference i posted was just hypothetical. the differences are actually in .001 increments.

 

man these dealerships are ******* homos..sorry for my rant but i had to let that out...my brother knows a pretty cool honda dealership in the midwest that he gets all sorts of parts from maybe they dont have rods up their *** and can help you.. pm my brother..his name is mgags7...good luck man..yea and dont do that by feel diffs are precision pieces that require precision tools

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sloaccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">feeler guage is useless because with the roller bearing there is always contact with it's outer race. what you need to do is measure the tension on the diff created by the shims.

the .004 difference i posted was just hypothetical. the differences are actually in .001 increments.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Man you are in luck, I just came across this thread.

I have installed a Quaife in an H22 tranny myself. I know exactly what problem you are having, and I have a great solution for you.

You need to build yourself a preload tool. Total cost is like $5 from Home Depot:
1) 3/8" all-thread rod
2) 6 3/8" nuts
3) 2 3/8" ID fender washers

Step 1: Put the tranny on the edge of the workbench, so the diff sits past the edge.
Step 2: Put the threaded rod through the diff. It should be just small enough to pass throught the diff center hole
Step 3: Put the fender washers on the top and bottom of the rod. Push the washers all the way to the outer lip of the axle holes on the diff, so that the washers' edge presses against both sides of the diff.
Step 4: Thread 2 nuts on either side of each of the washers. Use 2 of them to keep them from loosenening. Tighen down all 4 nuts, so that the rod "tool" and the diff will all spin together. You should be able to grab the rod and spin the whole diff inside the transmission case at this point. If you can't get enough grip on the all-thread, wait until after the next step to test.
Step 5: Thread 2 nuts on the very end of the rod that is facing up. Jam these two nuts against each other so they will turn the whole rod assembly. These nuts you will be using a socket on a wrench to turn the diff assembly.
Step 6: Get an inch-lb torque wrench. Use a socket that fits the nuts, and measure the preload with that.

Click on this link for a picture of how mine looked:
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/ks...1.jpg

You will probably have to go through more than one shim level to get the correct preload. Don't skimp and settle for an out of spec preload. I had to go through 3, although I knew someone in Texas who kept all the Honda diff shims because he did lots of Quaife installs. If you order online from a Honda dealer, expect the shims to take a few weeks to arrive. None of the Honda dealers keep these shims in stock, so be prepared to wait.

 

you are my hero.

i hadnt thought of your solution;
i was going to find an axle, cut it to pieces and weld a socket onto the end of it. your fix is much simpler. thanks.

majestichonda.com is where i get all my parts from; took 4 days for my shims to get to me.

 

Ya, what he said. The tool you were looking for won't work with a quaife anyway. Btw, I've done 3 of them and only one needed a different shim, probably because we used the old bearings.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sloaccord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you are my hero.

i hadnt thought of your solution;
i was going to find an axle, cut it to pieces and weld a socket onto the end of it. your fix is much simpler. thanks.

majestichonda.com is where i get all my parts from; took 4 days for my shims to get to me.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Cool, I'm glad it helped. PM or email me if you run into any problems.

Strange, becuase I ordered my shims from MH also, and they took 6 weeks to show up. I talked to two other people with the same experience, I guess you just got lucky.