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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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Well, I took out the timing gun and took a look because sometimes when i take off, I hear somthing going "eeek eeek" like tires screeching. Anyways, the marks are not staying still. They are moving up and down. What do you think I should change???

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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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Thats due to the motor increasing in idle.
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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So How am I supposed to change the timing? I don't remember it being like that. I mean, they are significant changes.
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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I'm not the smartest tech guy out there, but wouldn't that have something to do with your timing advance?
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 11:13 AM
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Well, you should be right. But what should I do to fix it? It doesn't stay still. so how can I tell if it is off????
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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you might need to replace the dizzy, someone correct me if i'm wrong, but the timing advance is part of the distributor.
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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How much is it moving though, a 1/8 inch and inch ? How much ?
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 04:20 PM
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I'm having the same problem with my moms CRV. Noticed the idle was a tad bit funny, by that I mean just a tad so I broke out the timing lite to check the idle and the lines weren't consistant it just kept jumping within spec back and forth, but not really beyond stock limits (like an 1/8 of an inch back/forth).

Could it be cap and rotor? Could it be coil or ignitor?
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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Default Re: Help, timing is not constant!!! (hb_racer)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hb_racer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, I took out the timing gun and took a look because sometimes when i take off, I hear somthing going "eeek eeek" like tires screeching. Anyways, the marks are not staying still. They are moving up and down. What do you think I should change???

Thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

First, the screeching sound you're describing is most likely a slipping accessory belt, and shouldn't have anything to do with your timing. With regard to checking your timing though, did you jump the service connector before attempting to check it?
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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Default Re: Help, timing is not constant!!! (Padawan)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

First, the screeching sound you're describing is most likely a slipping accessory belt, and shouldn't have anything to do with your timing. With regard to checking your timing though, did you jump the service connector before attempting to check it? </TD></TR></TABLE>

is jumping the service connector necessary when checking for timing? I know on my civic I didn't have to do that just to check timing and even to adjust it.
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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You do need to jump the service connector. Won't get an accurate reading without jumping it.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94CoupeEJ1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You do need to jump the service connector. Won't get an accurate reading without jumping it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Gotta try this.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 12:23 AM
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Default Re: Help, timing is not constant!!! (hb_racer)

so what your trying to say is have the car started with the jumper connetors on and do the timing light to get a better reading.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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The jumper connector...once the car is warm, will stop the ecu from adjusting the timing due to lean/rich readings

So if you want to check timing, at idle, this is the only way to do it, and also to adjust it, this is the only way
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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If you have a rebuilt distributor i dont recommend using a manual timing light, instead use one that tells you the reading on the gun.

Its a bitch and a half to time remanufactured distributors.
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Old Mar 10, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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Default Re: Help, timing is not constant!!! (technine)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by technine &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

is jumping the service connector necessary when checking for timing? I know on my civic I didn't have to do that just to check timing and even to adjust it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Jumping the service connector and setting timing will result in setting REAL base timing, which is what you really want. Without it, your ECU will do whatever to adjust timing itself.
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