A friend of mine put on a spring/shock combo (forgot the brand) which he says has dropped the suspension on the 96 integra by 1.8inches. From what I know in general that compromises the suspension geometry way too much without other mods and seems kind of extreme for the street (1.2in. seems reasonable) Anybody done this and can tell me what problems you have had or what other mods you have to do to make this work? I would think camber plates front and rear would be necessary. But hell I wouldn't drop a street car that far. A trailer, yes.
BH

 

1.8 sounds about right to me -- but yea he'll need a camber kit unless he wants to get new tires every year -- there is a really easy mod to fix the rear camber, however he'll need to buy a front camber kit. im dropped about 1.8-1.9 and my front wear is bad after having new tires for only a month

 

my car is dropped 2.25 inches w/ no camber probs. seems like you guys are extremely paranoid when it comes to lowering a car. when u see a car from the back and its tires are caving towards each other then u kno it has camber probs

 

Just get the car alingment done after you drop it to make 100% sure ..

 

 

i said it before and ill say it again , you dont need camber kit on a teg. . .itsa a waste i had my other teg at least 3 in all the time and never had any problems . . .tire wear was fine and never wore quick or anything . . . i also never got it alinged either.

you people are too paranoid

 

I am contemplating the same thing, as I drop around 1.8-2 inch. The shop I go to say I don't need to align it and only if I see ir-regular tire wear problem that I would need a camber kit. I can see the wheel is caved a BIT, but I am not sure whether I want to spend 60 bucks (CDN) to find out I NEED a camber kit? or would the 60 bucks alignment fix the "problem".... I am also getting new shocks next month, so either I get the camber kit together then, or I don't....

 

You need to always get a 4 wheel aligment after lowering your car. You will not need camber kits unless you want to blow the money on something useless. Every place will try and sell you some, but you don't need them. Just rotate your tires regularly and you won't have a problem.

 

yes, rotate. muy importante

 

Well I wouldn't install new spring/shock combo lowering the ride height without an alignment just to make sure. I appreciate the responses. If it has too much negative camber, it will obviously affect tire wear. I will watch the tires over the next month or two. thanks.
Barry H.

 

i don't know what planet your on but you need a camber kit if you drop it 2.25 inches, the back i just used washers but the front i ordered a camber kit, my front tires were anlgled outward 2.5 degrees unless you can afford new tires every six months get a front camber kit and use washers on the back and get it aligned

 

last time i checked i was on earth, and yea, my tires are not angled out at all w/ a 2.25 drop and 17s. unless the tires start rubbin the fenders theres really no need for a camber kit.

 

Unless you want to waste your money of course.


[Modified by itr0045, 10:06 PM 1/21/2002]

 

exactly..if youre so paranoid about lowering your car then dont do it.

 

Main purpose of camber kit is not for you to minimize tire wear. It lets you fine tune the turning characteristics of your car, with a little tradeoffs of tire wear.

 

soo you wont need a camber kit if you get an alignment?

 

amend that:

just get the car alignment done after you do ANY suspension work to make 100% sure

 

i disagree with you guy. If you lowwer your car more than 1.5 inches you need a camber kit in the front and MAYBE in the back. Im not sure how much money you have or how often you drive your car, but i cant afford to change my tires every few months. If you have stock tires then you can rotate in verses out. Then i guess your might be able to get away without the camber kit. But if you have directional tirese your going to be wearing out the inside of your tires like theres no tomorrow. You cant rotate directional tires as you would be able to stock tires. If you got the extra $$ends i'd say get the camber kit. your just saving more miles on your tires. You pay once for the Camber kit....but tires dont last forever. my 2 cents


[Modified by Cramerox, 11:49 PM 1/23/2002]


[Modified by Cramerox, 11:50 PM 1/23/2002]

 

Something must be wrong with your car then. Hondas use unequal-length A-arm double wishbone suspension, which by definition causes the camber angle to change as the suspension moves through its range of travel. ANY vertical change from stock stationary tire position WILL cause a change in camber, be it positive (suspension extending) or negative (suspension compressing, or lowering from stock position).

SupraTT: just to be sure you don't ask for the wrong thing by accident, Integras don't use camber plates. Those are only used on cars w/ McPherson-type strut suspensions, where you have to move the actual strut/spring assembly to change the camber/caster angle. Camber and caster on Hondas is determined by the spindle and control arms, so you want a kit that replaces the upper A-arm bolts and bushings and allows you to move the upper A-arm out slightly, thereby changing the camber angle.

Also, you need an alignment after making any change in ride height (even when adjusting coilovers). When the ride height changes, not only is camber affected, but also toe-in. In some cases out-of-spec toe-in angles can cause much more abnormal tire wear than out-of-spec camber angles.

HTH in some way.


[Modified by PatrickGSR94, 6:58 PM 1/23/2002]

 

Sorry to jump into this late, but i am kinda confused. At what degree of camber will tires be adversely affected? i am planning on getting an alignment no matter what, but i am planing on putting sportlines on and i wanted to know what is needed for a good install.
Thanks
Scott

 

anyone know?