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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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The engine in my 2000 Honda Civic Si just failed on me, and I'm in need of another engine.

Looking online at http://www.hmotorsonline.com I found an engine. I need to know if there are any compatibality issues with the swap. Seeing as how the old engine was a b16a2, and the new engine is a B16-SiR II I need to know what problems I can encounter.

Here is a link to the engine http://hmotorsonline.com/shop/...30004

Thanks for any insight.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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Your car is an obd2 and the B16A sir2 motor is an obd1 motor.. The obd2 motors have a CFK(Crank Fluxuation sensor) behind the crank pulley.. Youll have to use the crank gear for the timing belt off your old motor and also the sensor itself..

I know the oil pumps are the same between the years so you should be able to put the obd2 gear and sensor on to your new motor with no problems.. I would use your old intake manifold on the new motor incase the new intake has some sensors that arent in the same places(I know the sir2 intake manifold doesnt have the IAT sensor on the runner, but I think the usdb obd2's do)..

What happend to your old engine?
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tgreaves &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What happend to your old engine?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah chris -- what happened?
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 11:27 PM
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[QUOTE=tgreaves]Your car is an obd2 and the B16A sir2 motor is an obd1 motor.. The obd2 motors have a CFK(Crank Fluxuation sensor) behind the crank pulley.. Youll have to use the crank gear for the timing belt off your old motor and also the sensor itself..

I know the oil pumps are the same between the years so you should be able to put the obd2 gear and sensor on to your new motor with no problems.. QUOTE]
the oil pump on an obd1 engine will not have a mounting area for the cfk so he will need to use an obd2 oil pump
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ZylexSNL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah chris -- what happened?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Me/Tgreaves/My mechanic seem to think that the blown headgasket caused antifreeze to get into the cylinders and hydrolock it. I'm not too educated about mechanics, but that sounds like an apt description.

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the oil pump on an obd1 engine will not have a mounting area for the cfk so he will need to use an obd2 oil pump</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok, how long is it going to take to switch out the oil pumps? This is not being done by myself, or a friend, but rather by a shop. I'm trying to gague how much this whole process is going to cost
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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they will prolly charge for an hour of labor
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 05:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BigDisarray &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ok, how long is it going to take to switch out the oil pumps? This is not being done by myself, or a friend, but rather by a shop. I'm trying to gague how much this whole process is going to cost </TD></TR></TABLE>


You might want to check into this, I dont think you have to switch the oil pumps but just the timing belt gear on the crank and moving over the CFK sensor..
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 06:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tgreaves &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


You might want to check into this, I dont think you have to switch the oil pumps but just the timing belt gear on the crank and moving over the CFK sensor..</TD></TR></TABLE>an obd 1 oil pump doesnt have any place 4 for the cfk to bolt up to also the plastic cover is different from obd1 to obd2...i wish i had a camera to show you what i mean
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by reactiondc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">an obd 1 oil pump doesnt have any place 4 for the cfk to bolt up to also the plastic cover is different from obd1 to obd2...i wish i had a camera to show you what i mean </TD></TR></TABLE>

I kinda thought about after I posted it.. So he would have to swap the oil pumps between the obd1 and obd2 then, along with the sensor and timing belt gear..
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