the ing shim came right off the back of the pad!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am pissed off right now!!!!!!!!!!!

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The shims came on the pad to begin with, and were non-removeable.

 

when you say "shims", are you talking about the backing plate that the pad material is attached to?

 

If it's the shim, who cares? Just take it off.

Warren

 

Nah... there's thin metal shims epoxy'd to the back of some hawk pads, and they will come off - i've seen it happen before. Resolution? Throw 'em out..... really dont need 'em.

-Ryan

 

Whoa, calm down, next time before freaking out and getting all pissed off at Hawk ask first if they are important or necessary, no need to start trippin over a .5mm backing plate shim that falls off every hawk pad, i've had 2 sets of HP+ and both times the shim came off and it didn't make a !@#$ing difference.

 

It makes a differene when the shim starts grinding in to your rotors...

I am calling Hawk Tuesday and giving them .

 

hey man, the metal shim came off on my Hawk pads too.
somehow it got crunched up and started to rub against the rotor, not the brake disc itself but the rotor part where the back of the wheel would be flush with the rotor surface. and I didn't noticed this till like much much later and it made a groove in the rotor.

I was always doubtful against american products (no offence) but this very first american product that I put on my car let me down so I'm going back to Endless pads next time and japanese products for that matter....




[Modified by N1-R, 7:55 AM 1/20/2002]

 

Same happened to me and it ground grooves in the "hat" of the front rotors so deep that the rotors were garbage. I talked to a Jerry DeMarino at Hawk who promised to call me back in a day or 2. That was before Christmas... Maybe I'll call him again on Monday... I sent them a copy of the bill for a new pair of rotors (after I mailed one of the old ones to them at an additional $20)

I seem to have been lost in the shuffle.

I've just emailed Mr DeMarino with my complaint once again. Perhaps Hawk will help us out. I know that 3 of the racecars I crew for use Hawk pads so I thought I'd be getting the best in going with Hawk...

I'll keep you guys posted regarding whether or not Hawk stands behind their product...


[Modified by Its_real&its_spectacular, 3:00 AM 1/20/2002]

 

YES!!!!!! that's the word I was looking for ......"hat" of the rotor!!!!! thank you!!!!
holy it's that bad???? my groove is about 1mm i'm guessing......but still......i get paranoid and stuff. Go with Endless next time, they dont' have the metal shim backing and they're good stuff. At least going with Endless, you'll know it won't damage your rotors by engraving a groove into it.

 

Guys, I think if all of us complain to Hawk, we can get something out of this.

Possibly even class action law suit. They have to be aware of the problem; but yet they give no warning of this in the product description. Nothing comes in the box warning of this.

 

I think that is taking it just a bit too far... but I would call and complain, get a refund if that is what you want, and buy some different pads...

 

No, screw that, they @$$holes need to learn a lesson.

 

yeah law suit is not really needed, complaining and possibly getting money back would be a good idea. Just our amount of word about their product will make them lose a small amount of business already. Onyx00, let me know how it works out cause i want a refund too and go with a different pad.

 

Ok, I think you are going a little too far now, I had the same problem w/ the shim coming loose and cutting into my rotor also, but it was very obvious to me when it first happened due to the grinding/squealing noise so I took the shim off immediately, before it was able to do anymore damage. I don't know how long you were driving around for your rotors to be that badly damaged, but you should've been able to hear something wrong and should've corrected the problem before letting it get outta hand. I drove on mine for 100 miles since I was on the way to an auto-x at the time, when I got there the shim was taken off and no adverse affects since then, I just took off their shim and put the factory one on, maybe the factory shim is meant to go over their shim and keep theirs from moving? Maybe that was their intent in the first place, did you have the stock pad shim on there? If not I can understand why the shim could've come loose and damaged your rotor, but w/ the stock pad shim in place I dont' see this happening due to the tabs on them.

 

Relax, This is not just a problem with Hawk pads, it could happen with any mfg. My friend has the Carbotech streets and the shim started to grind against the rotor hat. Just take it off! Not a big deal.

 

Get some panther + and be happy.

 

Go Endless !!!!

Here's your option :

-NAY
-NAM
-NAR
-CCX
-CCM
-CCR

Instock now

 

ENDLESS

 

I hope this thread isn't endless.

 

 

endless= $$$

blues =

Will
-who has had no issues wif bl00s

 

That's cuz they don't put shims on blues.

Warren

 

Exactly, quit your damn bitchin already and just remove the shims and be happy like the rest of us w/ Hawks

 

I removed the shims, you're right it isn't hard.

BUT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE FACT THAT THE MORONS AT HAWK SHOULD MENTION THIS!!! Why even put a shim on the pads if you are supposed ot take them off? Anyone?

Oh, and it's not like I never posted about installing pads on this board... https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=111962

One person suggested taking the shims off, that was it.

My point is that you all seem so "Yeah, just take the shim off, duh" but no one really was that vocal about it when I originally posted about it!

 

My Hawk pads did not come with shims.
The OEM Honda anti-squeal shims were left with the factory Honda pads.

Will
-who should have spoken up sooner