what would be a cheaper swap...... build a reliable ls vtec.. or stock gsr... pros and cons on both?? thanks

 

there is tons of info on this if you search.

it really depends on what you want to do. but please do search. here are a few to get you started:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=974157
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=847262
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=800999
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=546070

 

thanks.. still new to this site

 

np

 

I would say a gsr is more reliable.... But an Ls/vtec can put down some nice # if built right..........

 

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A properly built LSVTEC will probably last just as long... There are a lot of factors that play in building a reliable engine. Is the rotating assembly balanced? Are ARP rod/head bolts going to be used? Main girdle? Good valvetrain? Good engine management and tune? ****, If you take your time and spend a little cash, you could have a damn reliable LSVTEC and still make some sick NA power.

 

i will have around 3 grand for my swap

 

an lsvtec is just as reliable as any other motor. the reasons you hear horror stories about them is this:

people want to over rev.
people just slap a vtec head on a ls block and think they are golden.
built poorly(true for any motor)

a motor is as good as how/who built it. the thing is to build an lsvtec you have to more or less start from scratch. if you tore a gsr apart and had some asshat that didnt know what he was doing put it back together you would see similar problems that you hear about with lsvtec's.

in the end it depends on what you want out of the motor. so ask yourself that question and then it will be a lot easier to decide b16, b18c, lsvtec.

 

thanks for info yoooo.. im always learning

 

I personally don't have any experince with Lsvtec's but I'm stating my opinon on this that I've heard and read........... I've seen an Lsvtec built and then a few weeks later it blew up...... but In the other hand I saw almost the same setup bulit from someone else put down a good 220 to the wheels......... So I'm really not sure about ls/vtec.. But Gsr's I know, went through like about 3 or 4 of them.....

 

get a newer ls or b20 block with a vtec head , for stock vs stock lsvtec will smoke a gs-r anyday

 

make sure you get a VTEC water pump, oil pump, and timing belt.

 

thanks yo all opinions help

 

i would go with a b16 and do cams plus good headers and buy my chip!

heres some test we just did and r still continuing

stock gsr 141whp
stock b16 135whp
sotck ls 122whp

lsvtec (stock block gsr head with gsr cam)148whp

lsvtec b16pistons ctr cams baseline 151whp with rev-speed (stockb16ctr chip)
after tuning 161whp

stock b16 with buddy club 3+ cam 145whp
stock b16 with buddy club 3+ cam and cam gear adjusted 152whp
stock b16 with buddy club 3+ cam and cam gear adjusted and jdm itr header(open) 165whp!

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1107932

 

doa search under rofl copter or banana phone or top fuel. A friend of mine has a midly built ls/vtec. There are some vids you would proably like to see

 

haha banana phone.. ive seen that vid it was hilarious thanks... im thinking maybe just starting off with a b20 block and building it up....maybe turbo b20 or a b20 vtec beast.... i know someone with a stock b20 with block guard and 9 pounds that ran low 12's................damn i have so many choices!!! hot to love the B series! thanks guys

 

for 3 g's i would just get a stock GSR. if your going to do a lsvtec spent some extra money and have it done right

 

Unless you use stock parts everywhere you can... I dont' think you will be able to put together a good LSVT for $3G's. (Unless you do alot of the work yourself)

I have had all 3 versions personally... straight LS, properly built LSVT and GSR. I am currently on my GSR engine and IMHO... go straight up GSR and build from there later on. I'm a proponent of properly done LSVTs, but you can't beat a stock engine.

 

i would go for the ls-vtec only if your going to keep the gsr stock
i just got a gsr for my hatch.. can't wait to get it in

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by X2BOARD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless you use stock parts everywhere you can... I dont' think you will be able to put together a good LSVT for $3G's. (Unless you do alot of the work yourself)

I have had all 3 versions personally... straight LS, properly built LSVT and GSR. I am currently on my GSR engine and IMHO... go straight up GSR and build from there later on. I'm a proponent of properly done LSVTs, but you can't beat a stock engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>


sorry to ask but what's a LSVT you used it THREE and even spelled it that way in your signature