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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 03:11 PM
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I have been reading and searching. Seems like the rule of thumb is to find the smallest wheel that will clear the caliper. Currently using Si/SiR brakes so I believe 14" will be fine, as I am using stock 14" steelies now. But I am in a cross road of picking wheels, new or used matters not but mostly, the size.

I went to the track last year with a set of Racing Sparco N1 14x6 wheel (I think they were 14x6) that had 195 Azenis on them. I sold the wheels later, reason being I thought about going 15x7 with +43 offset. (they were +37 offset) I was afraid if I change the suspension, +37 might rub the fenders hence, I sold them. But then I thought, the spring rates are 16/14, so they should be hard enough during cornering to prevent rubbing. I thought about that after I sold the wheels....

I just got a couple selections on my hand now and one of them is a 14x6 +38 wheel. Weights about 11 - 12lb as the seller claims.

Just wish to consult the experts on this. Many thanks
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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Go with the 15's, if only because the affordable sticky tire for the 14" rim is soon to be gone with the RT-215 (old azenis) being discontinued. Assuming these are street wheels for a mostly street driven car...
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Old Feb 16, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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Tell me where I can find those 14x6's...

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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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As for tire availablity, I think regular soft compound 14 inches won't be out any time soon.

So, what are some other opinions? I am not racing in any leagues, just paid tracking events.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 07:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nova_Dust &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So, what are some other opinions? I am not racing in any leagues, just paid tracking events. </TD></TR></TABLE>

205/50/15 Falken, Toyo RA1

Or whatever used r-tire you can get your hands on at $25/ea.... thats what I do toyo, hankook, yokohama, etc.. no matter.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 08:09 AM
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I see, so you are suggesting not to use 14x6 but instead, go with 15x7 UNLESS the rule calls for 14x6 only?
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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well used 205/50/15 r-tires are so cheap and easy to get....
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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So your answer is based on price and accessibility, am I correct? That's why you pick 15x7 over 14x6?
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 09:26 AM
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Correct.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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mmm... from a functional point of view, smallest wheel to fit the caliper should always apply, is that so?
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 09:58 AM
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weight, width, and rollout/gearing have an issue as well.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nova_Dust &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mmm... from a functional point of view, smallest wheel to fit the caliper should always apply, is that so? </TD></TR></TABLE>

the rule of thumb is smallest dia. to clear caliper, however, if there's no ideal tire size to theoretically fit that wheel, it's a moot search. how you define "ideal" can change, but for the most part i would think a 205/50/15 would be ideal for most honda race cars that weigh 2500lbs or less.

i would recommend the 15x7's since the added inch of rim width will be much better for contact patch size, and the added inch of diameter and 2 lbs of weight probably won't make too much of a difference to moment of inertia.

it's a fairly complex question to dissect, but the bottom line is you'll prob be faster on 15x7's than you would on 14x6.
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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I see. So most people prefer 15x7 as the choice of their track wheel size.

Is there a reason why certain race regulation only allow 14x6?
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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How about 14x7 Borbet Type T with 225/50-15 Hoosier R3S04 tires? I've got six, getting ready to sell 'cause I have this urge to spend a lot of money on something very light...pics at web site in sig...
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nova_Dust &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...Is there a reason why certain race regulation only allow 14x6?</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's how it used to be in improved Touring - ITB and ITC required stock diameter, 6" max width; ITA and ITS required stock diameter and 7" width. There are now allowances to go oversize in diamter but the width requirement remains.

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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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I guess stock wheel size limits the caliper size, which effects the amount of braking power and engine HP rating.

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