I HAVE A 97 ACCORD 2 DR, NEXT WEEK I WILL GET MY H22 TYPE S INSTALL, FOR $500, AND THAT COMES WITH A CLUTCH, PRESSURE PLATE, LIGHT FLYWHEEL AND SOME HEADERS, AND GSR COMPUTER, WITH A STOCK TRANY,,,,,HOW YOU THINK THE CAR WILL RUN?, IS IT ENOUGH TO BEEAT MY BOZY HATCH BACK WITH A REGULAR H22, WITH LSD, AND MSD?

 

Foshizzle. You is gotz to be trippin. Everyone knows nobody ever done that before.

I think? I think you is dumb. Go read the forum rules and quit jacking other threads.

 

I wanna know where you're taking it for this swap. $500 in labor... HOLY ****

 

I would be worried if they are only charging 500 for install that included clutch, flywheel and ecu. BTW what stock tranny? You will loose to your friends hatchback. Also how many H22's are you putting in your car to get some HEADERS? or are they custom?

 

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500$ in labor for a swap is about average I thought...

So much cheaper and more fun to do it yourself though.

 

As far as labor goes a swap will generally run a little more than a grand. That's not to mention any extra parts you will need. But yes it is definitely more fun and educational if you do it yourself.

 

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FOR $500, AND THAT COMES WITH A CLUTCH, PRESSURE PLATE, LIGHT FLYWHEEL AND SOME HEADERS New V6 H22?
AND GSR COMPUTER, WITH A STOCK TRANY As opposed to an aftermarket tranny? APC's coming out with a good one...
HOW YOU THINK THE CAR WILL RUN? As poorly as your english skills
IS IT ENOUGH TO BEEAT MY BOZY HATCH BACK WITH A REGULAR H22 If Bozo the Clown has a hatchback, I'd think ANYONE could beat him.
WITH LSD, AND MSD?MSD? Medium Slip Differential to go with the Limited Slip?
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In conclusion, you suck.

 

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This 0wn1ng has been brought to you by your local HT Official ******.

w00t!!!

 

Why did you say lsd and msd?? Neither add horses.

 

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w34k.

 

lsd ( limted slip Differential) ok for those genius that really know, lsd means 50/50 on both side of the tires, as supposed for 70/30,,,,again i keep going lower, meaning, both the tires give out the same power on both sides, meaning lower, better acceleration, meaning lower better take off,,,,,,,,,next lesson (msd) multi spark discharge, should i even say more, think not

 

(superlslow) never did what before,,,,,,never swap accord h22 type s, what the light flywheel? reg headers?, or the stock accord trany combine with the h22

 

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Huh? Lower? Are you trying to say quicker?

Let me fill you in on some things, since you're apparently not picking up on the sarcasm and flaming.

First, this is a TECHNICAL forum, not some place to ask lame-***, e-racing questions. In other words, no "will my car with so-and-so mods beat his car with this-and-that mods" posts.

Second, if you come in here speaking/acting like a stunna, don't expect any serious replies.

Third, I hope you're not running a stock GSR ECU, and the MSD isn't doing **** for his car.

Finally, by stock tranny do you mean your Accord tranny? If so, your gearing isn't suited for the H22, especially considering you're trying to go "lower".

 

I was making fun of the fact that you listed LSD and MSD together. I know more about LSDs than you do and you act like an MSD is NOT an ignition component, rather a suspension component...


oh boy.

 

pls don't hv any hope on an h22a accord can beat h22a hatch... this is just my own experience, if u fully built, then u will hv the chance....

 

Yea an accord weighs somewhere around 2800 lbs and a hatch can weigh as little as 2092 pounds. Plus the civic will have the advantage of the extra weight in the front for keeping the wheels planted.

 

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actually, open diff will provide 50/50 power ratio to the left and right wheels...regardless of traction issues...rarely will you see both tires having an equal amount of traction due to road surfaces, wheel hop, suspension, factors you name it

lsd provides 70/30 40/60 whatever ratio it needs to put the most power to the side with the most grip...a tire that has exceeded it's maximum grip (for whatever reason that may be) doesn't need any more torque so the torque is transfered to the other wheel that could use the extra power

looks like someone is misinformed...i'm not flaming but you should research more...like how you could've saved money getting a base h22a and mod it since if you build the type s motor, you'll be taking away any advantages it had over the base h22...goodluck though

and btw its "as OPPOSED to"

 

not stunning, no way far from it,,,,just wanted to know if i can beat my boy simple yes or no would be enough

 

go race him and let us know. Its as simple as that.

 

IBTL.

None of you have any idea what an lsd really does. It is a passive device, not like atts. It will never put more power to the wheels that are gripping than the ones that are slipping. at most 50/50 regardless of whether it is helical or clutch pack.

And msd will not get you **** on stock internals. Even with some serious cams.

Even with a built h22, you are not going to have much of a chance against a swapped hatch. By the time you get moving, you will just be playing catch-up.

 

so (azian21485) what are the advantage of having a base h22 then a type s, price is not a factor, since i got a very good deal, one i couldnt have passed,

 

Search. This should help you from your current lack of knowledge.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=979961

 

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None of you have any idea what an lsd really does. It is a passive device, not like atts. It will never put more power to the wheels that are gripping than the ones that are slipping. at most 50/50 regardless of whether it is helical or clutch pack.

And msd will not get you **** on stock internals. Even with some serious cams.

Even with a built h22, you are not going to have much of a chance against a swapped hatch. By the time you get moving, you will just be playing catch-up.

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ah i stand corrected then...sorry about that

side note: so seeing how a lsd will be limited to a max of 50% torque to the gripping wheel (assuming the other wheel has low grip)...the atts system in a perfect world, if i understand correctly should be superior to a standard lsd since it is not limited to 50% of available torque but can transfer as much remaining torque to the wheel with grip as possible (of course not to exceed this wheel's grip)...if this was a perfect system then the only downside would be it's extra weight....am i right?

 

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i paid 450 for labor. 95 accord with obd1 h22a.

 

ben &gt; n

what a tool