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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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whats up i just swapped my 2nd gen jdm b16 into my 95 coupe...and when i put the key in to attempt to start it...i put it in the "on" position and i didnt even hear the fuel pump turn on..and then i turned it again to try to start it and it didnt even crank ???? i dont get it i kno it has nothing to do with the motor cause it worked fine out of my previous car..could it be a bad fuel pump? would anyone by anychance kno what could be the problem....thanks alot
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 09:03 PM
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Sounds like bad batt. Try to get a jump start.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 09:19 PM
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ill check that tommorow but i dont think thats it because the battery was working fine in my friends hatch yesterday...if the fuel pump was bad would i still be able to crank the car or no ?
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Yeah it would crank, just wont turn over because its not getting any fuel.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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It all just sounds like a wiring issue to me. Seems like you're in for some quality time with a multimeter tomorrow.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 05:05 AM
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but would anyone know what would probably cause the fuel pump to not turn on???
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 06:54 AM
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???
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 07:05 AM
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Sounds like a fuse or main relay problem.

had the same problem with a friend's H22 hatch...

start checkin stuff.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 07:13 AM
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check all your ground wires... especialy the valve cover and starter ground
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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would u kno which fuse in particular???...the main relay would click but thats all i would get...we even took out my back seats..and unscrewed the metal part thats covering the fuel pump and when i turned the key in the "on" position me and my friend heard nothing from the fuel pump
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by usdmike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sounds like a fuse or main relay problem.

had the same problem with a friend's H22 hatch...

start checkin stuff.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what did u guys do for this problem when u didnt hear the fuel pump turn on and the car doesnt even crank
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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If you hear the main relay click over but the fuel pump itself isnt working, its probabliy the fuel pump thats gone bad. Do you have another handy you can swap out?
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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yea my buddy called me and said if i need a new one he has one for me
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:27 AM
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anymore ideas my fellow Honda-tech members im going to work on the car in a hour/half....i need different suggestions to try out keep em comin thanks alot
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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Main relay, ground wires, fuses. That's all the advice we can give. Go fix your car.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 01:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Got Milk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what did u guys do for this problem when u didnt hear the fuel pump turn on and the car doesnt even crank </TD></TR></TABLE>

Haha, It still isn't fixed yet.

To make sure it wasnt the fuel pump, we hot wired it to send power directly to the pump. So to drive the car, you twist the wires together(pump starts pumping) and then start the car.... dont do this, it is ghetto. If you have a voltmeter start looking for shorts, make sure power is getting to the fuel pump.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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i think im going to bring the car to the shop to get a diagnostic (&lt;---spelled wrong) test...60 bucks a hour i think i got a short somewhere
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 04:51 AM
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damn the main relay is good...fuses are good..battery is charged...fuel pump still not coming on and its still not cranking ???
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 05:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Got Milk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn the main relay is good...fuses are good..battery is charged...fuel pump still not coming on and its still not cranking ???</TD></TR></TABLE>

GROUND WIRES!!! I think the motor should still turn over even if the fuel pump is bad... could also be a problem w/ ur ECU!!! Step away from this fuel pump thing for just a sec. and start checking other stuff.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 05:21 AM
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check your ground wire by the thermostat theres a ground wire there for the harness so that makes it not do anything of what ur talking about.
if not ur stuck
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 05:23 AM
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also the ground wire for the battery, it goes to the tranny, make sure its tight.
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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u think a diagnostic test should find the problem it could be a short somewhere??
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Old Feb 14, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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i didnt read all that, but check the ecu fuse under the hood. i think its a 15
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