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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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So i dynoed my car today and it made 144whp and 110ft/lbs...
I have a '97 usdm H22a4 with 70k swapped into an EK hatch
Mods:
-Hasport motor mounts
-Short ram intake
-5zigen catback w/o cat
-Mugen 4-2-1 header
-MSD ignition
-NGK plugs
-AEM fuel rail
-AEM frp
-AEM Cam gears
-RC 360cc injectors
-OBD2 into OBD1 harness
-Skunk2 chipped p28
-VAFC
The timing sounds fine, and the fuel has been properly tuned and leaned out using a dyno. cylinder compression is fine and there are no obvious problems. car runs very smoothly, It simply is not making the power it's supposed to. Any ideas about what the problem is??? thanks




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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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Default Re: H22 not making power help?!?! (integravtec96)

just a guess but does your ECU recognize the 360cc injectors or does it think they're stock injectors?
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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post up the dyno plot w/the af ratio
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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I love how people just throw random parts at their engine. Why do you have an aftermarket rail, an adjustable fpr, 360 cc injectors, and a VAFC?
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Old Feb 10, 2005 | 10:59 PM
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does your VTEC even work??? 110 ft lbs sheesh!
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 06:55 AM
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Yeah I was there when they dyno/tuned it. VTEC works great, he originally dynoed at 132 right before they tuned it, so they manage to squeeze out 12WHP just for tuning the fuel, on a side not, the intake he has is a ghetto home made short ram and the pipe is very small, but that wont make the 20-30 WHP that this car is missing, im guessing it might be the skunk2 p28 ECU?
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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we are gonna try borrowing a p13 ecu from a friend and running that, and getting a bigger/better intake, see if anything changes, getting alot of feedback saying it might be the ECU/timing
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 11:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sharkcohen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love how people just throw random parts at their engine. Why do you have an aftermarket rail, an adjustable fpr, 360 cc injectors, and a VAFC?</TD></TR></TABLE>

HAHAHA. I was just about to say the same thing!!
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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^^^^^^^^ he bought the car with that swap and all those things on thier.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sharkcohen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I love how people just throw random parts at their engine. Why do you have an aftermarket rail, an adjustable fpr, 360 cc injectors, and a VAFC?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Would someone like to explain to me why these parts are random? Is it just because the stock rail, injectors, etc are sufficient for NA sub 200 whp?

...Flame suit on!!!
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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subscribed, just incase i ever run into a problem like this
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ludebehavior85 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Would someone like to explain to me why these parts are random? Is it just because the stock rail, injectors, etc are sufficient for NA sub 200 whp?

...Flame suit on!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>
The stock rail and injectors flow way more than what he needs, and having both an adjustable fpr and a VAFC is redundant, as they do essentially the same thing.
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Old Feb 11, 2005 | 09:41 PM
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Default Re: H22 not making power help?!?! (sharkcohen)

What kind of Dyno did you use? If it is a Mustang dyno, then that sounds about right...
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 06:54 AM
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i always love when people get a chipped ecu and then tune on top of it.....what a waste of money......

way too many factors to f with here guys, get some stock stuff (fuel rail, fpr,injectors) and tune it with that, they are WAY MORE than sufficient for your setup.....

also where in raleigh are you, there are no fast h22s around as of yet, maybe you can see against my prelude if your dyno is just crap......try the car against some sort of real comparison(race someone or 1/4 mile).....l.
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 07:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integravtec96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So i dynoed my car today and it made 144whp and 110ft/lbs...
I have a '97 usdm H22a4 with 70k swapped into an EK hatch
Mods:
-Hasport motor mounts
-Short ram intake
-5zigen catback w/o cat
-Mugen 4-2-1 header
-MSD ignition
-NGK plugs
-AEM fuel rail
-AEM frp
-AEM Cam gears
-RC 360cc injectors

-OBD2 into OBD1 harness
-Skunk2 chipped p28
-VAFC
</TD></TR></TABLE>

And what exactly compelled you to buy these items?
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Old Feb 12, 2005 | 10:36 PM
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Default Re: H22 not making power help?!?! (sharkcohen)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sharkcohen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The stock rail and injectors flow way more than what he needs, and having both an adjustable fpr and a VAFC is redundant, as they do essentially the same thing.</TD></TR></TABLE>


thanks
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 06:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LudeyKrus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

And what exactly compelled you to buy these items?</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
^^^^^^^^ he bought the car with that swap and all those things on thier.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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