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440S RUNing @ 100% all the time

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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 02:40 PM
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hey i tried out dsm injectors on the car and it run fast but it get **** for mileage. i know hondata is the best way to fix it but is there any way else to do it for cheap other than vafc? i had that resistor box hooked up to.
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Shouldnt you have thought about fuel management BEFORE you slapped them in? Especially seeing as you seem to know you were going to need some sort of management?

Um.........
-Hondata
-Uberdata
-Vafc/safc
-EMS
-Power FC

??
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Old Feb 5, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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umm uberdata, for 130 bucks you could have all the options of hondata and tune it yourself...
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 07:54 AM
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whats required for uberdata? a p28 ecu and sumtin else i think. Ive seen the maps that you can make and control for it, but i wouldnt know how to use it.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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You went from small injectors to big injectors. What did you think was goign to happen with your gas mileage without tuning?
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 09:51 AM
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damn i swear im getting sick of these people on here who just say some ******* **** to say some ******* ****. Shut the **** up unless u got something that may be helpful. thank you
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbo_b16_ex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats required for uberdata? a p28 ecu and sumtin else i think. Ive seen the maps that you can make and control for it, but i wouldnt know how to use it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not unless you have a Non-VTEC car... then you will need a P75, or P06. Unless you want to somehow remove the VTEC part of the ECU
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You went from small injectors to big injectors. What did you think was goign to happen with your gas mileage without tuning?</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbo_b16_ex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn i swear im getting sick of these people on here who just say some ******* **** to say some ******* ****. Shut the **** up unless u got something that may be helpful. thank you </TD></TR></TABLE>

dont oyu think its your own fault/ignorance that you didnt do the research first ? i wouldnt get mad at others stating the obvious. easiest way is to get a S-AFC and just set it around -35 as a base then dyno tune it. gas milage will go up.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 10:04 AM
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i knew the mileage would deacrease but not to the extent of 6 miles per galon. ive never heard of it being that bad with dsms. they just ssay it doesnt get very good gas mileage for a honda.
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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well think about it at 3000 rpm your car stock is at about 40% duty cycle (235cc injectors), so you are using the injectors as 94cc at 100% (for values sake), now take 440 100% thats 5 times as much fuel than you need, so you go from 32 divided by 5 and you get around 6.4mpg... simple math

edit: i just looked it up and actually at 3000rpm you are 20% duty cycle so in reality you should be around 4 mpg....
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Old Feb 6, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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makes sense im not very good with numbers
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