Hey guys-
I just built a crx si road race transmission with a Quaife and 4.73 fd, stock si gears, for a customer of mine. We are going to use the car for drag racing and need to upgrade the axles. I am considering selling this trans (never used since the addition of the quaife and fd gears.) to get the ZC trans for the intermediate axle. My customer would like to use different gearing and equal length axles instead of the Si trans bolted to his super built dohc ZC engine.

I built the trans myself, I have done several of these and raced them myself, so it is a quality install. There is no issues with the gearing or synchro's, I am willing to sell it for 2350.00 + shipping if someone is interested.

Any takers?

 

is the price too much?
the gear box is solid, the gear and the quaife were both 1k each, plus the gear box has not been used since being built.
comments are welcomed...
thanks

 

anyone with a comment about this gearbox?
Last I knew guys were screamin for a gear box with these parts in them....
They are installed, and no labor charge, only to recover the cost of the parts in the mission....

 

I would love it but I need hydro
sorry

 

4.7+quaife is a good ita trans. unfortunately, i odnt think anyone would pay that much for it.

 

$2350.00? isnt that more than the cost of the FD and Quaife alone? how is that reasonable? sell it at cost and youll probably find takers. just my dumbass opinion.

 

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do you think the transmission (case, gears, shafts, bearings, basically everything but the FD and Quaife) should be free?

 

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do you think the transmission (case, gears, shafts, bearings, basically everything but the FD and Quaife) should be free?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Si transmissions are easy to find, and cheap. As a matter of fact, I am selling one for $50.
And I have bought a Si tranny with FD and Quaife for $2k. So yeah, $2350 may be a few hundred too much.

 

OBX LSD - $400
SSR FD - $500
Trans - $100
Labour - $???
Total - $1???

This is quickly becoming a reality.... I hope.

Someone, though, will pay, just cause it's got a real quaife, etc. I'd ask $1500.00.

Jon

 

I appreciate those that have im'd me for the gearbox, it is nice to see somepeople out there can appreciate a quality gearbox, instead of hijacking a thread to advertise lower cost and quality parts, these are the guys that eventually come to us for a quaility gearbox after they tow 6 hours to a track and their "low cost" purchase locks up their box and ruins their weekend...

This gear box is worth every penny, how many of you work for free?
Not being sarcastic, just honest and would like others who deal in the same fashion

 

My point is that I could get a fully rebuilt Si box from gearspeed with both items for less and know the condition. It's likely that trans cost more than the car it's going in so try bringing down the price to 1999 and see.

 

does gearspeed say they use the Quaife and ATS final drive plus a core and fresh bearings plus shipping for 2350?
I can understand a lower price, but in this day and age understand it still takes human labor to build and produce a good box that is maintance free for a full race season. So your telling me only the big companies that can do many gearboxes a year and thus take a hit on their pricing deserve all the business.
The internet makes everyone so price concious and focused on money, that when a good quality engine builder, trans builder, with a solid reputation for road racing and championships to back it up isn't worth a look just because it isn't the best price offered on the web?
Remember, imho, this country was built on hard work, sweat, and know how, not the internet and who can lowball who.....I am not opening another can of worms, but simply stated, this is a gearbox with brand new parts with an experienced builder, who should be able to garnish a fair price for his parts invested and the work produced. If another company can produce it for cheaper, and money is all you care about, then I guess I loose. This country was built on personal relationships...call gearspeed for a set up on your road racing crx or h1 car or tire pressures to run at different tracks....what will you get? I offer free advice day and night.....so there is more at stake here than just a gearbox that isn't the cheapest price. I am taking a loss on the gearbox as it is....so respect the sweat, not the wallet.
People make this tunning market not a wallet, consider the person behind the wallet, not the money in it.
Have a great day, and remember, the next time you need advice on your parts, or car set up, open your wallet and see what it tells you.

 

I'm not telling you anything other than my oppinion.

gearspeed offers a 2 year warranty BTW

 

That looks like a good price to me! I have a SOHC GearSpeed tranny, with Quiafe for $2100 and it take a minimum of $500 more for a different final drive. No warranty with those either since they are competition parts.

For a competition car, I wouldn't trust my tranny to a OBX LSD.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Roadracejunkie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Remember, imho, this country was built on hard work, sweat, and know how, not the internet and who can lowball who.....
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This country was built on personal relationships...</TD></TR></TABLE>

not to be picking nits but isn't Quaife (seemingly the large ticket item discussed here) in England?

 

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part of the problem could be that you stated earlier that labor for rebuilding the trans was not included.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Roadracejunkie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyone with a comment about this gearbox?
Last I knew guys were screamin for a gear box with these parts in them....
They are installed, and no labor charge, only to recover the cost of the parts in the mission....</TD></TR></TABLE>

either way, the price you are asking is fair, if the transmission has been completely disassembled and refurbished, as well as having a quaiffe and ats final drive. it sounds as if you are taking a hit, based on marauder's earlier statement. perhaps much of this thread could've been avoided with a clearer description of precisely what is included (total rebuild with performance components).

 

artifex-
I see your point, however, the guy that is looking for this type of box doesn't need to know all the little details as you stated I could have stated. If someone is interested and knows they need this and it fits their budget, then the IM feature on this site works just fine.

maybe your right, but I don't judge that, I am eating the labor, and the gearbox is refurbed...(refurbished), plus a new lsd from Quaife, and the 4.73 final drive ring and pinior gearing, with stock si gears for a legal scca ita combination or honda challenge H4 gearbox.

I know a number of racers look for deals, and this is one of them, paying this much for a gearbox is a necessity if you want a quick crx or civic, that is all that needs said. If some need to debate things, parts, pricing, shipping, I (imho) don't think they posess the desire to win with a quailty gear box. (others have said so in this thread, good value.)

I paid what it took to win my championship in H4, never bitched about who had what cheaper on the web, I paid my dues, I paid for my parts, I put my money where my mouth was, and I earned a championship by using reliable parts.

When I first started racing, i bitched and moaned and learned that was an attitude setback, once i met Price Cobb and got a daytona prototype invitational test years later, I adjusted my attitude and learned that I was wasting time and energy on things that were a bigger issue in my mind than really it was on the track.

Some of you have made great points, others have gone against my opinion, but I did open the can of worms by asking for comments, and for that I have learned the mindset of those that want to win, and those that are more concerned with pricing with out purchasing...do we haggle at a drive thru for food? NO, we pay what we are supposed to pay and are accepting of the outcome with what we purchase, good, bad or indifferent.

I am offering a fair price, and a quality gearbox, if you want to buy, then drive up to the speaker and place your order for one gearbox, if your not hungry, then you might want to order a plate of "desire to win."

Effort ='s Results

That statement is above Roger Penske's desk, a great role model and worth every dime it took to print it and frame it. Standing in Penske's office with his trophies, and seeing that framed black and white moto with Roger sitting in his chair speaking to you, priceless.

 

Phat-S

Your post took my point completely out of context, and yet still reinforced my point as well.....wow, that is hard to do..

let me explain....

In the quotes you copied, (I'd do the same, but don't know how), I stated in my honest opinion mind you, that our contry was founded on hard work and sweat and that a man who works hard and charges a fair price deserves some respect.
You took that quote of my context and then focused on money (seemingly big ticket item), and said it was England....

Yes the Quaife is engineered and produced in England, then shipped to Autotec sport tunning in San Juan Capistrano, which is where I get my Quaife's from. That is the U.S. importer....so what.

My point, which you obviously missed, is that I put my gearbox together and rebuilt it, using quality parts (Quaife, ATS, Geninune Honda Bearings), and it was my (american way of business) hard work, knowledge, and diligence to build a successful gear box....

I have built several boxes, and no one has had a problem with them. How many championships have you won with your hard work on a car or gearbox or motor assembly????

So all I am saying is that I put forth the effort to refurb a gearbox, at my expense no less, paid for the quaife and ats and shipping and then the labor to clean, inspect, adjust, and replace the bearings (the puller for this job is 65 bucks by the way), then install the quaife, and final drive, and seal it all back up and torque the case bolts (torque wrench expense), just to make this a solid box.

When I said america was founded on relationships i meant good ones, obviously you overlooked this point, I meant good, solid, respectful relationships.
If Mc Donalds took your money and you never got food at the drive thru, would you go back?
If you spent 2650 on building your own gear box and took the labor hit when you sold it for 2350, would you be happy when internet posting lowballing ****** told you to drop your price? Aren't we intitled to get a fair wage for a job well done?
As a buisness I am offering a discount on the gearbox, that should be enough incentive.
Thanks for reading, and this is not a personal attack, just a 36 year old's opinion that the net guys need to respect someone who works hard to learn, and has a right to charge a fair price for that knowledge and hard work. Instead of getting lowballed because the "poster" on your thread can't afford the parts.
nuff said

 

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Why are you taking their opinion as a personal attack of some sort? Should you not negotiate the price? Do you pay sticker for a new car? Should they offer more $$ to you because they think you are a nice guy? The comments were based on what that type of gearbox sells for - even if it was used, Honda 'boxes are pretty robust and as long as it was taken care of and not abused, one with new bearings vs. 1 or 2 y/o bearings doesnt really command a higher price, IMO.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Roadracejunkie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">let me explain....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Let me explain something to you. If your product is as good as you think it is, you shouldn't have to banter with internet geeks about the price all day. It should simply sell itself....and you should have more than enough customers in line to buy your products.

The price seems fair for the sum of the parts, however your argumentative attitude is enough to keep me away.

 

for someone who is looking to buy a NEW quaife and a NEW final drive to put into a transmission, this is a good deal.
But it's not priced to move fast, so you'll have to wait for the right buyer, right?
It's like Johnny Ricer paying $10k for his civic, and $3k to install his body kit, then trying to sell the car for $12k. Sure the right buyer might come along and pay it, but he won't have people lining up for it.

You can't give people **** for not leaping at the opportunity to buy it, though. That said, I'm getting tired of seeing every big ticket sale item on a message board followed up with two dozen replies of "great car, I'd buy it if I had the money"

 

points well taken....all very good....i guess posting on this site is what i get for trying to sell something...

I guess Johnny Tran you have a very valid point.....however, if you didn't plan to buy the trans, why comment on it in the first place..because I asked about price, and I got great responses.....including yours...no more bantering...I was honest and so were many others...that is great communication and I appreciate it, I know have the "pulse" of this site and some of it's members.

btw- trans was sold

 

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Thanks