I just rebuilt this motor and don't trust the tune for boost.

It really needs hondata/ uberdata + bigger injectors.

I'd also like to break it in allmotor, so what would be the easiest way do this?

I'm thinking I'll just leave everything installed and simply disconnect the piping that goes to the throttle body.....

Or should I remove the blower belt?

Or both?

Or.....???

 

oops..... wrong forum.

I meant to post in the FI section.....

Can someone please move?

 

BAN the noobie

 

take off the belt and disconnect the charge toob?

 

Why do people still not understand that you are not in boost all the time? Even with a supercharger you are not going to be in boost all the time. It's load dependent people. Just don't press the gas pedal hard and you won't be in boost. Geez

PS. that wasnt pointed at you Nick just in general

 

how is a supercharger not in boost at all times? I can understand for a turbo, but a supercharger is running off the belt which is always turning no matter how much gas you are giving it or how much load is on the motor. not arguing, just questioning.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC2R714 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Why do people still not understand that you are not in boost all the time? Even with a supercharger you are not going to be in boost all the time. It's load dependent people. Just don't press the gas pedal hard and you won't be in boost. Geez

PS. that wasnt pointed at you Nick just in general </TD></TR></TABLE>


Yes, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE IN BOOST EVER. Not while I'm breaking in the motor. I have to press the gas pedal to run through the rpm's and break in the motor properly.

 

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Yes, BUT I DON'T WANT TO BE IN BOOST EVER. Not while I'm breaking in the motor. I have to press the gas pedal to run through the rpm's and break in the motor properly. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Break it in with boost. **** I had 64 miles on my built motor and broke it in on the dyno with 9psi. My motor is still perfect. Break it in like you will drive it.

 

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its not boosting if theres no belt spinning it.

even if you leave the plumbing in place, this particular motor (note: IMHO) will not come close to enough airflow to spin the blower.

then again, I've been up for the past 52 hours straight and I could be dead wrong.

 

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R0cker doesn't trust the tune. Simple reason for not breaking it in with boost.

 

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*sigh*

Do people just not read anymore.....?

It seems that they just see the thread title, click on it, then click reply.....

 

break it in with some NAWZZZ instead yO

Nate - we all understand how wastegates work, but it's virtually impossible to drive a turbocharged car on the street without producing at least some boost (unless you have a humongous T4 or some ****). A supercharged car will definitely make boost no matter how you drive it.

Rocker, I would just take the belt off, and disconnect the charge pipe. Hell, I would take the whole damn thing off and slap a pep boyz racing filter on there till it's broken in.

A better approach might be to get the thing tuned before you break it in, so you don't have to worry.

 

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He's worried about the tune.

But yeah, Ken-- Spinning a supercharger with no load should NOT cause any issues! So leave the belt on if it's easier. You should reroute the intake pipe, the flow through a not-spinning supercharger would probably suck bad. Stick a generic filter right on the TB if you want, if you don't care about where the valve cover breather is going.

Tune it.

-Chris

 

Ok maybe you guys arent getting what I am writing. When I said break it in with boost I meant while tuning it. Ask Jeff Evans (boosted-hybrid) how he breaks in the motors he builds. He puts them directly on the dyno to break them in.

Secondly a Supercharger is connected with a belt and will spin with the motor but that does not mean it will create boost. The vortech kit uses the compressor of a turbo connected to a shaft which is belt driven. Superchargers pull with load and RPMs. Taking out the load it will still spin and wine but shouldnt create boost.

or I might be smokin crack. Caaaaaaaan yooooou diiiiiiiiiiig it!

Also if you were always in boost with a supercharger it would be a maad tyte idle y0

 

vortech chargers have a minature like transmission that steps up the speed of the compressor depending on load. If you don't give it hell you will not be in boost. When I was breaking mine in there would be plenty of times where I was at partial throttle and no boost would show on my boost gauge so to say that superchargers are always in boost, is incorrect. to say they are always ready for boost and there is very little to no lag at all, is correct

 

Remove the belt. No worries.

 

Get that red flippy switch thing that Mad Max had.

Flip it on when you need to catch a bike.

Flip it off before you run outa petrol.

 

Get it tuned immediately so your motor is running the correct af during its break in.

 

what he said get it tuned right away don't wait till motor blows. My buddy got his mototr built at Kenny Tran's shop and it made almost 900 hp in a civic SI. Kenny told him they actually break most of their cars in on the dyno

 

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vortech uses a serpentine belt for the blower and ac pulley's at the same time...

no belt on blower = no air blowing out of the ac...

I just disconnected the charge pipe.

 

If I had the money I would honestly tune the motor so you can break it in with boost. I have always been a firm believer in breaking in ANY engine how it will be run in day to day operations. Otherwise, disconnecting the pipe like you did should work.