Alright, Heres my story: Im an 18 year old kid that has been wanting to boost his car for about 2 years, then I finally realized how much of a hastle a turbo'd car could be after watching some friends with good setups have a lot of unfortunate mishaps. Im preety much learned everything about setting up a turbocharged car...but I completely ignored the basics of upgrading/building a motor.

To sum it up, I want to build an ls/vtec powerplant..but I have no clue on what the precise measurements need to be and etc.. like clearances and stuff. Basically, if I were to put a b16 head on my b18b, what specifications, to build it right, would I need to use? b16 or b18b?

Here are the parts I had in mind:
PR3 head
PR3 Pistons
Golden Eagle ls/vtec kit
Eagle H-Beam rods(or shotpeen LS rods)
b18b block(hot-tanked, honed..etc.)
Type-R oil & water pump
GSR girdle
ACL bearings
ARP head-studs
ARP rod-bolts
AEBS intake manifold
y-1 tranny + factory LSD.

I may upgrade to Type-R cams and valvetrain in the future, but I figure I would ride this way^^^ for a while. BTW, I tried searching and Ive also compiled this list of parts by what people normally use for this setup.

 

I think you'll spend less buying a swap. You didn't include ECU, harness, gaskets, etc. If you don't have tools, add a lot of money to that.

 

i had lsvtec with gsr head stock itr cams pr3 pistons an-r intake dc header tuned with emange and made 187hp and 134ftlb not a bad setup for oem internals and reasonably cheap

 

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not bad at all

the classic oem lsvtec build... there has to be tons of these motors.. and for good reason

 

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ya, ill porbably run hondata s100..maybe uberdata if I can find somone around here to tune it.

Why would I need a harness? Theres already one sitting in my car. I wouldnt need a harness to a vtec motor, would I?

Ive got plenty of tools also, and gaskets arnt a problem..IVe got the hookup on those.

 

first....KEEP THE STOCK RODS. save a buck or two.

get arp rod bolts and new bearings[oem or acl]
if you have 93 octane in tennessee, screw the pr3's, and get the PCT's [civic type R pistons] because that will leave you with enough compression to push a bigger/better cam later on.

buddy club cams &gt; type R
spend more $ and get a valve train upgrade.
type R throttle body/STR

and the aebs intake manifold.

bigger injectors too

 

haha, we have 93 ..lol we're not that "podunk"

Now Colorado on the other... My dad was freaking out when we were in the eastern plains of Colorado and the only gas station in a 300 mile radius didn't have anything higher than 89. We ended up having to put the 89 in the Audi Allroad 2.7T, but luckily we found a store farther down the road that sold octane booster. Lol...we rode in limp mode to that store though.

 

hey timmy take the GSR girdle off your list. it'll require machine work to be able to get a girdle on there. many people run their motors without that just fine..

 

ah ok. Thanks for the headsup

 

Ok well Ive run into a dilemma here. I know theres been some discussion about this..but here it goes. P72 head or PR3?

the p72 will yield higher compression stock, than the pr3. However, I know that the Pr3 will flow more. In the LONG RUN what will be better to go with? I know the PR3 is the same casting as the "R" head..can the P72 head be massaged to out rival the pr3 head?