Brake Noise related, pain in the but
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Well I put new brake pads on and resurfaced rotors.
after this incident, i've been getting squealing brake noise as i slowly come to a halt, not on the highway braking, but as i come to a stop.
It's becoming very annoying, and although they are autozone 20 dollar specials, they do have LLT. The thing is I told the guy, I have that brake lubricant on the back with the shims, but i didn't put any on the surface of the brake pad.
The guy told me to put a little brake lubricant on the surface of the pad?
and i thought to myself is this guy an idiot!!!
Wouldn't that cause less friction=no brake?
What can it possibly be, and it isn't the rear shoes either, I tried the handbrake method, its the front?
thanks and let me know
after this incident, i've been getting squealing brake noise as i slowly come to a halt, not on the highway braking, but as i come to a stop.
It's becoming very annoying, and although they are autozone 20 dollar specials, they do have LLT. The thing is I told the guy, I have that brake lubricant on the back with the shims, but i didn't put any on the surface of the brake pad.
The guy told me to put a little brake lubricant on the surface of the pad?
and i thought to myself is this guy an idiot!!!
Wouldn't that cause less friction=no brake?
What can it possibly be, and it isn't the rear shoes either, I tried the handbrake method, its the front?
thanks and let me know
yea, putting lube on the pad fronts is not a good idea....although they do make this spray stuff that you can spray directly on the rotors that is supposed to help quiet things down...
are you getting any noises while traveling, or just when coming to a stop??
are you getting any noises while traveling, or just when coming to a stop??
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only when coming to a stop
well I tried a 60-0 brake and I had no noise
it's only when I drag the brakes that the noise comes, but the guy told me a little of the brake lubricant wouldn't hurt but i just can't come to grips to doing that because it will give me less friction
any ideas?
and what is that spray stuff?
I have the lubricant on the back on the pads
well I tried a 60-0 brake and I had no noise
it's only when I drag the brakes that the noise comes, but the guy told me a little of the brake lubricant wouldn't hurt but i just can't come to grips to doing that because it will give me less friction
any ideas?
and what is that spray stuff?
I have the lubricant on the back on the pads
You need the anti-squeek lube on all of the pad contact points. It's not a spray it's in a tube so you can dab or paint it where you need it on the entire back of the pads if you have shims and where the caliper piston contacts the shims/pads. You also need it in the clips where the pads fit in to eliminate vibration harmonics.
Even though the rotors were turned you should check them for runout also. I'm sure the guy meant the back surface of the pads when you were talking.
Also I would not do any 60-0 stops unless you install high performance brakes.
Go very easy on 'em for a few days.
Modified by alotawatts at 9:27 PM 1/26/2005
Even though the rotors were turned you should check them for runout also. I'm sure the guy meant the back surface of the pads when you were talking.
Also I would not do any 60-0 stops unless you install high performance brakes.
Go very easy on 'em for a few days.
Modified by alotawatts at 9:27 PM 1/26/2005
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alotawatts »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You need the anti-squeek lube on all of the pad contact points. It's not a spray it's in a tube so you can dab or paint it where you need it on the entire back of the pads if you have shims and where the caliper piston contacts the shims/pads. You also need it in the clips where the pads fit in to eliminate vibration harmonics.
Even though the rotors were turned you should check them for runout also. I'm sure the guy meant the back surface of the pads when you were talking.
Also I would not do any 60-0 stops unless you install high performance brakes.
Go very easy on 'em for a few days.
Modified by alotawatts at 9:27 PM 1/26/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was suggesting the spray stuff as an alternative because it does exist.
It doesn't seem like he needs the red gooey brake quiet stuff cause he isnt having noise all the time. The gooey stuff is meant to hold the pads to the caliper piston and bracket so it will back off the rotor when the caliper is released. If this was not happening, noise would occur more frequently then just when stopping cause this IS when the pads are touching the rotors.
I would agree with a post above about the cheap pads being the possible culprit.
Also, you would NOT want to put the red gooey brake quiet stuff on the pad clips. You do NOT want the pads sticking inside the clip. You want them sliding easily through the clip back and forth. Therefore, you would want to put BRAKE GREASE on the clips so they slide easier.
Good luck.
Even though the rotors were turned you should check them for runout also. I'm sure the guy meant the back surface of the pads when you were talking.
Also I would not do any 60-0 stops unless you install high performance brakes.
Go very easy on 'em for a few days.
Modified by alotawatts at 9:27 PM 1/26/2005</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was suggesting the spray stuff as an alternative because it does exist.
It doesn't seem like he needs the red gooey brake quiet stuff cause he isnt having noise all the time. The gooey stuff is meant to hold the pads to the caliper piston and bracket so it will back off the rotor when the caliper is released. If this was not happening, noise would occur more frequently then just when stopping cause this IS when the pads are touching the rotors.
I would agree with a post above about the cheap pads being the possible culprit.
Also, you would NOT want to put the red gooey brake quiet stuff on the pad clips. You do NOT want the pads sticking inside the clip. You want them sliding easily through the clip back and forth. Therefore, you would want to put BRAKE GREASE on the clips so they slide easier.
Good luck.
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Prob you purchased the wrong kind of pads.
Now as far as lubercation goes you only need to lube the BACKING plates for the pads, make sure you have SHIMM's and also lube the contact sides where the pads rub against the caliper assembly. NEVER put the grease on the faces of the rotor or pads. and use as little as possible so you dont have it all squeezed out when you first put pressure on the brake system.
I suggest you use Anti sieze or any other high temp synthetic silicone based product, DO NOT USE Axle lube, bearing grease, or white lithium grease. they will create damage due to their melting points.
Now as far as lubercation goes you only need to lube the BACKING plates for the pads, make sure you have SHIMM's and also lube the contact sides where the pads rub against the caliper assembly. NEVER put the grease on the faces of the rotor or pads. and use as little as possible so you dont have it all squeezed out when you first put pressure on the brake system.
I suggest you use Anti sieze or any other high temp synthetic silicone based product, DO NOT USE Axle lube, bearing grease, or white lithium grease. they will create damage due to their melting points.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jefe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Also, you would NOT want to put the red gooey brake quiet stuff on the pad clips. You do NOT want the pads sticking inside the clip. You want them sliding easily through the clip back and forth. Therefore, you would want to put BRAKE GREASE on the clips so they slide easier.
Good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Good point. I should have said brake-quiet on the outside surfaces of the clips where they contact the calipers.
Also, you would NOT want to put the red gooey brake quiet stuff on the pad clips. You do NOT want the pads sticking inside the clip. You want them sliding easily through the clip back and forth. Therefore, you would want to put BRAKE GREASE on the clips so they slide easier.
Good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Good point. I should have said brake-quiet on the outside surfaces of the clips where they contact the calipers.
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