plan to do the oil change/rotate tires today..and just wanted to make sure that i switch out the rear tires for the front.as in like driver side rear to driver side front with the yoko es100's. any info appreciated. thanks.

 

yeah, es100's are unidirectional, so you gotta put the rear on the fronts and vise versa for driver side and passenger side

 

do it like this

 

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That's totally wrong...go away.

 

that works for directional tires?

 

I'k like to know too as I use the Yokohoma ES100s also

 

no, it only works for non-directional tires.

 

No, that would not work for direction tires...the two tires that would go to teh front would still be going the correct direction, but according to that diagram you'd put the left front on right rear and right front on left rear....thus putting them on the wrong way.

As far as i know, for rotation directional tires you can only switch front to back on same sides....unless you took them to a mounting shop and had them switched around to go the opposite direction as before....but that would cost alot of money.

 

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sheesh...left front to left rear, right front to right rear, right rear to right front, left rear to left front.

If the outside edge has more wear than the inside then have the tires flipped on the rim and install accordingly to the direction arrow on the sidewall...

what is so difficult about this?

 

i posted that because he said that they were unidirectional. that is the proper way to rotate unidirectional tires

 

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No, it's not. You need to consult a dictionary perhaps?

Uni-directional = directional

What you posted is the correct way for NON-directional tires.

 

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I dunno.

I always thought they rotated by themselves when you drove the car

 

uni = one

 

nevermind for somereason i thought that meant they could rotate both ways

 

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I dunno.

I always thought they rotated by themselves when you drove the car </TD></TR></TABLE>

our cars can do that?

 

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Yup.

Incidentally, it's VERY easy to do this on the ITR. Just jack the car up using the jacking point (metal tab) located about a foot behind the front wheel well, and jack it high enough so that both tires on that side of the car are off the ground. Just switch them with each other. Then lower the car and go do the same thing on the other side of the car. Done.

 

i work at a gm dealer and when we rotate tires that are non-directional we do this

drive wheels straight back, non drive wheels criss cross,

 

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drive wheels straight back, non drive wheels criss cross,</TD></TR></TABLE>

This topic is about the Yokohama ES100. The ES100 is a directional tire. The advice from your GM dealer does NOT apply to the ES100.

The directional nature of the ES100 is quite obvious, just from looking at the tread pattern:

 

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This topic is about the Yokohama ES100. The ES100 is a directional tire. The advice from your GM dealer does NOT apply to the ES100.

The directional nature of the ES100 is quite obvious, just from looking at the tread pattern:


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Exactly. When rotating tires like these (directional) you need to keep the tires on the same side front to back.

 

alluvasudden, i see why people get frustrated with misinformation posts.


question about the es100's or unidirectional tires in general: i tracked on them a bunch this summer, for the most part on a left turning track, and as such my passenger side took the brunt of the wear.

what i was wondering was how bad an idea it would be to rotate side to side (vs the proper front to back) in order to redistribute the wear. this could be either for on the track in the dry, or just on the street in the dry, with no intention of driving in the wet. i know it's wrong. just want to know -how- wrong it would be.

 

I would have them flipped on the rims by a tire place.

 

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you can do it with A032R's and it's no big deal ... but the directional pattern is less integrated.

 

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question about the es100's or unidirectional tires in general: i tracked on them a bunch this summer, for the most part on a left turning track, and as such my passenger side took the brunt of the wear.

what i was wondering was how bad an idea it would be to rotate side to side (vs the proper front to back) in order to redistribute the wear. this could be either for on the track in the dry, or just on the street in the dry, with no intention of driving in the wet. i know it's wrong. just want to know -how- wrong it would be.</TD></TR></TABLE>

good question

i've also seen people who run the inside of the azenis on the outside of the rim...

 

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ya, so would i, best case scenario... but that's not my question any other thoughts?

just wondering how this would affect both driving and the tire itself, beyond more than a 'badly'.

 

Many R Compound tires are NON directional, except for the tread pattern which would draw water to the outside. So, once the tread is gone, or if you use them in the dry, it doesn't matter anymore. (I have three left RA1's and one right RA1.)

Falken probably doesn't sanction running Azenis down to their cords, but if they did, I wouldn't be surprised if they're unidirectional underneath all them treads.

I've run tires backwards for short periods of time (hundreds of miles) accidentally, with no ill effects...

*shrug*

YMMV. Get your manufacturer's recommendation (or at least your knowledgable tire retailer).

-Chris