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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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Default Cheap HID conversion, is it good or not?

Im sure i know the answer to this but i was curious if these were worth the money, just another cheap ebay gimmick im sure but i thought id check, anyone use one of these kits?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=WDVW
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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read this

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1104891
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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ya i read that
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by a1320honda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya i read that</TD></TR></TABLE>

Then why the **** are you even asking if you know it's gonna be absolute ****?
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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sorry didn't click on your link..

it looks like higher wattage bulbs with upgraded wires and relays to handle the voltage.

i don't think it is HID..

I thought HID are not halogen.

Halogen is regular bulbs
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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its not HID

its crap
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mario. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Then why the **** are you even asking if you know it's gonna be absolute ****?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow, i didnt know they talked about that particular "hid" system in that post DICK. simple question asked, is it really crap, you dont know, you havent bought a set, so why the **** are you replying. why does everything have to have a purpose, i want to know for my general knowledge, not cause im gonna go out and buy stock in the ****** company. thanks for the reply though! i dont know alot about HID systems and im trying to learn. but i guess you know every ******* thing in the world huh?
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by a1320honda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow, i didnt know they talked about that particular "hid" system in that post DICK. simple question asked, is it really crap, you dont know, you havent bought a set, so why the **** are you replying. why does everything have to have a purpose, i want to know for my general knowledge, not cause im gonna go out and buy stock in the ****** company. thanks for the reply though! i dont know alot about HID systems and im trying to learn. but i guess you know every ******* thing in the world huh?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's $70... compare that to the cost of a real HID setup. If that setup really worked for $70, then why would people spend $400 on projector retrofits? It's called common sense... you get what you pay for.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by a1320honda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Wow, i didnt know they talked about that particular "hid" system in that post DICK. simple question asked, is it really crap, you dont know, you havent bought a set, so why the **** are you replying. why does everything have to have a purpose, i want to know for my general knowledge, not cause im gonna go out and buy stock in the ****** company. thanks for the reply though! i dont know alot about HID systems and im trying to learn. but i guess you know every ******* thing in the world huh?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Dont you know, everyone on H-T knows everything!!!!
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mario. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's $70... compare that to the cost of a real HID setup. If that setup really worked for $70, then why would people spend $400 on projector retrofits? It's called common sense... you get what you pay for.</TD></TR></TABLE>

True its not real HID but it is the same Idea in the sense that stepping up the power to the bulbs to produce more light. I might try out some of these, the thing you really have to be aware of is higher wattage halogen bulb produce more heat and could melt your headlight housings whereas HIDS are lower wattage and produce less heat but more light. Either way, its bound to be an improvement over stock.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 01:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Unsivil_audio &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">True its not real HID but it is the same Idea in the sense that stepping up the power to the bulbs to produce more light. I might try out some of these, the thing you really have to be aware of is higher wattage halogen bulb produce more heat and could melt your headlight housings whereas HIDS are lower wattage and produce less heat but more light. Either way, its bound to be an improvement over stock. </TD></TR></TABLE>

More light? Did you not read a single thing in the thread that was posted here?? I could a flashlight pointed out the side of my window to assist my stock headlight system... that must mean my lighting system is better than yours, because I have more light even though it has no sense of aim or direction right???

Either way, it's an absolute waste of your money and you'd be much better off with some PIAA's or something that have been tested and tried and true.

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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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but piaa's are higher wattage too... you will need a new harness so that you don't burn you stock harness.. there is a guy on ht that sells harness for higher wattage bulbs..

i would search but time for me to go home...

damn MARIO.. chill he was just asking a question, you don't have to berate (sp)...

everybody has to start somewhere.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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thats not an hid kit anyways. it still has the filament bulb while hid bulbs use gas. looks more like the catz product that would just brighten your existing bulbs
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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dont buy it...
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mario. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

More light? Did you not read a single thing in the thread that was posted here?? I could a flashlight pointed out the side of my window to assist my stock headlight system... that must mean my lighting system is better than yours, because I have more light even though it has no sense of aim or direction right???

Either way, it's an absolute waste of your money and you'd be much better off with some PIAA's or something that have been tested and tried and true.

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Changing out the stock bulbs with a higher power bulb is no different than changing the 60w bulb out for a 100w bulb in a table lamp. The light will still be focused the same way as before since the shielding and reflectors are still the same and in the same place, but the room will be brighter and vision will be enhanced. As long as the bulb wattage doesn't exceed the wiring's capabilities, it's a great way to improve visibility.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00Red_SiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Changing out the stock bulbs with a higher power bulb is no different than changing the 60w bulb out for a 100w bulb in a table lamp. The light will still be focused the same way as before since the shielding and reflectors are still the same and in the same place, but the room will be brighter and vision will be enhanced. As long as the bulb wattage doesn't exceed the wiring's capabilities, it's a great way to improve visibility.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Then why does an H4 HID not work as you state? All it is a brighter bulb... it should just be like the stock lighting but brighter? Doesn't appear to be...
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 08:59 PM
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It's because the bulb itself and element is totally different in shape and size, therefore the bulb light focuses differently on the stock reflector.

I was only referring to the kit that the original poster was asking about which was just a higher output bulb setup, not an HID setup.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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these are not real HID's. They specifically say they have a filament. HID bulbs are filled with Xenon gas and what happens is when you turn them on the ballasts create an electric arc across the gas inside the bulb to emit light. Also, if you do decide to go HID on your car, remember that HID's only support one beam. so in otherwords, no high beams.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by a1320honda &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im sure i know the answer to this but i was curious if these were worth the money, just another cheap ebay gimmick im sure but i thought id check, anyone use one of these kits?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=WDVW</TD></TR></TABLE>

that kit looks like something out of toys-r-us
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mario. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Then why the **** are you even asking if you know it's gonna be absolute ****?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hypoxvi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">these are not real HID's. They specifically say they have a filament. HID bulbs are filled with Xenon gas and what happens is when you turn them on the ballasts create an electric arc across the gas inside the bulb to emit light. Also, if you do decide to go HID on your car, remember that HID's only support one beam. so in otherwords, no high beams.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can get halogen style bulbs that have xenon gas in them to give them a slightly higher light output. Most of those fake HID look alike bulbs you buy out there are like that. You can also get the HID kits that do have high and low beam capability.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 10:05 PM
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it's a nice idea, but eh, waste....get real HID or stick with stock, from someone who's done almost everything with lights - only "upgrade" that's worth it out of all of them, is those with 9006/9005 lights, to convert the 9006 socket to 9005. And of course a real HID upgrade.

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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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dont get those one of my boys had them and they looked just like the hyper whites its just better to get a real HID kit
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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If you know about the 9006 to 9005 bulb conversion, that's basically what this kit is. 9006 to 9005 conversion generates more heat, causing wire harnesses to burn. This looks to be the same concept, but they're preparing you for what's likely to happen - wire harness burning.
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