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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 08:12 AM
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Default How to explain to someone the importance of lowering ur car if they are going strictly for drag..

I have a good friend who believes that lowering his car will not help him at all. I personally think that lowering the car will make it look better and im pretty sure that the lower ride will make ur times better. Im thinking the lower the car and stiffer ride will make less movement when he launches and therefore will give him more traction.

he drives a 98 civic coupe with a ls swap direct hit sparkplug setup and I,H,E more mods to come.. any info would be helpful thanks..
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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you will break more axles with the lower the car. yes, stiffer is better but you can get stiff without lowering it. personal, if its only a drag car, dont lower it, just get stiffer springs. check out boostedjeff's hatch. function over form.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 08:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RidinlowHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">. function over form. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 09:11 AM
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You said lower, then started talking about stiffer...

Stiffer rear springs would probably help him, but no, he doesn't have to lower the car to accomplish that either. The typical car that's lowered for looks (as you're primarily describing) has typically hurt handling more than if they'd left it at a resonable height.

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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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im not talking about slamming the car to the ground.. Im just talking about an inch maybe 1.5 inch drop and thats it with some really nice springs..
and this wouldnt produce any kind of benefit in the str8 away at the drag stip..
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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as long as its not over 3 in. or so its cool. Make sure to get a good suspension too
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 09:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2FAST4U831 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as long as its not over 3 in. or so its cool. Make sure to get a good suspension too </TD></TR></TABLE>

please explain, very interested in your logic.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 09:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RidinlowHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

please explain, very interested in your logic.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 09:38 AM
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its probably the same logic.. that would state that asian girls are hot becuz they are jdm lol..
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 09:39 AM
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Eibach Drag launch springs should do ur friend just fine
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 09:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMlyfestyle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Eibach Drag launch springs should do ur friend just fine </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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Snapping axles IMO depends mostly on the driving skills. Dont lower it to much that it looks overkill. I have some skunk2 drag launch springs 2 in. drop rear and 3 in. drop front stiff as hell .
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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how much power are u running in ur car though. ... with his setup right now im sure those springs would do him justice.. the times we run here are about 1 sec slower then that at sea level.. were are a mile or so above sea level.. his best run is a 16.9 and he is already swapped and i showed the upgrades..he has.. my hatch with just a stock ls motor and I/E runs 15.8 but he is going turbo soon and is expecting .. to try and get some kind of pro out of his car.. and i support him.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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Aerodynamic drag is the biggest limiting factor to top speed. Lowering a vehicle reduces aerodynamic drag. Therefore, lowering a vehicle increases top speed.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pane93civhb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much power are u running in ur car though. ... with his setup right now im sure those springs would do him justice.. the times we run here are about 1 sec slower then that at sea level.. were are a mile or so above sea level.. his best run is a 16.9 and he is already swapped and i showed the upgrades..he has.. my hatch with just a stock ls motor and I/E runs 15.8 but he is going turbo soon and is expecting .. to try and get some kind of pro out of his car.. and i support him. </TD></TR></TABLE>A jdm d15b with bolt ons for right now should be getting a bee-series early next year . I've never timed it but around 15-15.5 or so
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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so a car that is lowered four inches, that is basicaly on the ground is functional?
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RidinlowHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so a car that is lowered four inches, that is basicaly on the ground is functional?</TD></TR></TABLE>Have you ever watched Speed when they do those european racing tournaments and they have the Ep3's pretty slammed?
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:21 AM
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yes, they are very low, but that is road racing, not drag racing. you have to setup a car with a differenent susp. for each type of racing.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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There are other ways to accomplish the downforce needed or not needed for the mph you are looking for. Spring rates and shock dampners I believe to be first and foremost important in drag racing(suspension wise). Ride height and and aerodynamics come later when you really need to get ever mph you can.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WAFFLES &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There are other ways to accomplish the downforce needed or not needed for the mph you are looking for. Spring rates and shock dampners I believe to be first and foremost important in drag racing(suspension wise). Ride height and and aerodynamics come later when you really need to get ever mph you can.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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that all comes with suspension and the importance of suspension though correct.
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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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Well, if you gain any time on the 1/4, most likely I would attribute that to the spring rates.
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