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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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ok when i was getting ready to bolt engine to tranny I realize i did not line the engine and tranny up correctly and i bolted it up real tight thinking the bolts needed more torque and they seperarated (tranny and engine)abrutly as a result the bolts stripped the threads inside the engine. tried a thread restorer and now the bolts are hard to tighten.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 02:53 PM
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So you stripped more than one bolt doing the same thing?

Uh oh. Here's your sign.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Uhhh...you need to have the block re-machined to take bolts again. Find your nearest machine shop and get out your checkbook.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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Fortunately it's not that hard to do, just have them drill the holes out and put heli-coils in. Except the hard part is you removing the engine to take it in...You gotta be careful with aluminum threads!
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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here is my sign ???????
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:12 PM
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are u sure here is the thing. i then unbolted the engine and tranny again(to the see the damage) and bolts do still turn and tighten just not initially. once i turm it a couple of times its fine
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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what he meant was here is your sign
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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so you're saying that now after using the thread restore, you can thread the bolts back in, just it's tough to do so?

are you using the same bolts? you probably fucked up the thread on the bolts as well as the holes themselves.

get new bolts, re-restore the thread on the block, and try again.

if it's still too bad to use, then have a machine shop fix it.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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yeah i fucked up both
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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still clueless
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BADEG6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what he meant was here is your sign
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Awesome picture.

I THINK they are IMPLYING that the task of threading and tightening bolts may be a little beyond your grasp. I mean, I'm pulling at straws here, but I think thats it. If you cant get it all back together w/o raping your block the rest of the way, you're going to have to pay someone to fix it for you.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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Perhaps I took the 'here's your sign' joke the wrong way, but when he said it I thought of this:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There are some people that should have to wear signs that just say, "I'm stupid."

That way you wouldn't rely on them would you? You wouldn't ask them anything. It would be like, "Excuse me...oops, never mind. I didn't see your sign."

It's like before my wife and I moved from Bay Shore to Coram...our house was full of boxes and there was a U-Haul truck in our driveway. My neighbor comes over and says, "Hey, You moving?" "Nope. We just pack our stuff up once or twice a week. Just to see how many boxes it takes.... Here's your sign."

Last summer I went fishing with a buddy of mine, we pulled his boat into the dock, I lifted up this big 'ol stringer of bass and this idiot on the dock goes, "Hey, y'all catch all them fish?" "Nope. Talked 'em into giving up..... Here's your sign."

I was watching one of those animal shows on the Discovery Channel, there was a guy inventing a shark bite suit. There's only one way to test that. "All right Jimmy, you got that shark suit on, it looks good... They want you to jump into this pool of sharks, and you tell us if it hurts when they bite you." "Well all right....hold my sign, I don't wanna lose it"

Last week I had a flat tire, so I pulled my truck into one of these side-of-the-road gas stations, the attendant walks out, looks at my truck, looks at me, and I SWEAR he said, "Tire go flat?" I couldn't resist. I said "Nope. No, I was driving around and those other three just swelled right up on me...... Here's your sign."

We were trying to sell our car about a year ago, a guy came over to the house, drove the car around for about 45 minutes. We get back to the house, he gets out of the car, reaches down and grabs the exhaust pipe, then goes, "Darn that's hot!" See.... If he'd been wearing his sign, I could have stopped him.
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 04:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There are some people that should have to wear signs that just say, "I'm stupid."

That way you wouldn't rely on them would you? You wouldn't ask them anything. It would be like, "Excuse me...oops, never mind. I didn't see your sign."

It's like before my wife and I moved from Bay Shore to Coram...our house was full of boxes and there was a U-Haul truck in our driveway. My neighbor comes over and says, "Hey, You moving?" "Nope. We just pack our stuff up once or twice a week. Just to see how many boxes it takes.... Here's your sign."

Last summer I went fishing with a buddy of mine, we pulled his boat into the dock, I lifted up this big 'ol stringer of bass and this idiot on the dock goes, "Hey, y'all catch all them fish?" "Nope. Talked 'em into giving up..... Here's your sign."

I was watching one of those animal shows on the Discovery Channel, there was a guy inventing a shark bite suit. There's only one way to test that. "All right Jimmy, you got that shark suit on, it looks good... They want you to jump into this pool of sharks, and you tell us if it hurts when they bite you." "Well all right....hold my sign, I don't wanna lose it"

Last week I had a flat tire, so I pulled my truck into one of these side-of-the-road gas stations, the attendant walks out, looks at my truck, looks at me, and I SWEAR he said, "Tire go flat?" I couldn't resist. I said "Nope. No, I was driving around and those other three just swelled right up on me...... Here's your sign."

We were trying to sell our car about a year ago, a guy came over to the house, drove the car around for about 45 minutes. We get back to the house, he gets out of the car, reaches down and grabs the exhaust pipe, then goes, "Darn that's hot!" See.... If he'd been wearing his sign, I could have stopped him.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Blue collar comedy tour

I may be receiving previously mentioned object in a second, but not even a good 'ol fashioned tap and die set could restore that?
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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Default Re: bolted engine wrong caused damage (mikensu)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mikensu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok when i was getting ready to bolt engine to tranny I realize i did not line the engine and tranny up correctly and i bolted it up real tight thinking the bolts needed more torque and they seperarated (tranny and engine)abrutly as a result the bolts stripped the threads inside the engine. tried a thread restorer and now the bolts are hard to tighten.
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Got torque wrench?
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Old Dec 16, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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when a friend and i swapped a tranny on to his car, we were being stupid and bolted the tranny to the block before bolting the tranny to the mounts. big mistake.

two of the holes in the block stripped out just like what happened to you. the solution was to buy a M12 x 1.25 helicoil kit, and a 31/64" drill bit. get new bolts too.

problem solved.

if you need more info on heli coil kits or how to do it, i can explain. but you certainly do not need to send your block anywhere or pay anybody to do anything. you can fix this yourself for under $50.

we did all of that with the engine in the car too.

lesson learned: always follow the helms manual step by step even if at the time it seems like it doesn't make sense or your way is easier. (especially after a few beers ). and use a torque wrench on important bolts.

he drove around with out those two bolts for the better part of a month and didn't have any problems either. if i remember correctly he did a couple autocrosses with it like that too and everything held up much to my surprise.
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