I'm not 100% sure where i should put this thread, so here it goes. Okay i currently own a GSR, but the engine has 125k miles on it. I wanna rebuild it cuz i want more power out of it. I AM not gonna track my car or take it dragging every week or anything. I just want to be able to have the torque when i want it. This car will be a daily driver

GOALS:
Hit at least 210whp
I want a good amount of torque (i dont have a real specific number)
I want to be able to rev to about 8,000K
I want a reliable engine
Spend less than $3500

I dont know that much about engines, but i have been researching on these forums, as well as team-integra and automotivetech.org. This guy that i've sorta been talkin to works at a shop, and he suggested two things for me:

EDIT
1. Keep B18C1 and resleeve block to 85mm, which would make my displacement pretty close to 2.0 (solves the torque goal). He also said he could do a 5 angle valve job. He said he would also build my bottom end w/ JE pistons (12:1 Compression) with Eagle Rods. Some other titanium stuff that i can't remember. He said he would port/polish my head, titanium Valve Springs and retainers. Bigger, more aggressive cams. The only problem with this is that its going to cost around $5000

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2. Get B20 bottom end. JE Pistons 10.5 Compression. Eagle Rods. Balancing and Blueprinting Block. Titanium Retainers and Valve Springs. Port/Polish Head. Bore out my GSR Intake Manifold. Either a B16, GSR, or ITR head. Hondata Chipping and Tuning. He said it should be safe to rev to 8k. He said this set up would cost about $3500, maybe less. Any suggestions on a good B20 Set up???

What do you guys think? Should i keep my GSR engine, or get the B20? Is the b20 block reliable if i plan to rev it hihg? Suggestions? Comments? Any other set ups i should look into??

Modified by xAznRac3rx02 at 7:08 PM 12/16/2004


Modified by xAznRac3rx02 at 7:11 PM 12/16/2004

 

you have three things in your list you may only pick two

210whp
reliable @ 8000rpm
less then $3500

 

Hahahahaaaa twiet go to work !!!!! There are people that need kitchens !!!!!!

xAznRac3rx02

Keep the gsr. Don't resleeve it !!!!! Just put some 81.5 mm pistons in it 12:1 compression and some rods. Than do a compleet head job, so valves, springs, retainers, port and polish 3 angle valve job and some cams. Wicked, buddyclub or some other brand you like. Adjustable cam gears and hondata s200. If there is money left buy a good header.

 

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Keep the gsr. Don't resleeve it !!!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

But i want torque... and i know that resleeving it can get that for me

 

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Keep the gsr. Don't resleeve it !!!!! Just put some 81.5 mm pistons in it 12:1 compression and some rods. Than do a compleet head job, so valves, springs, retainers, port and polish 3 angle valve job and some cams. Wicked, buddyclub or some other brand you like. Adjustable cam gears and hondata s200. If there is money left buy a good header. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I know that i shouldn't ask how much hp this sset up is gonna give me, but i'm gonna do it anyways. How much hp and torque should this set up give me?

 

im gonna take a gess and say you will end up with about 180whp, you are not gonna get big tq numbers unless you go to a k or h series. and 210 on a b series is gonna be on the verge of all motor reliablity

 

Look over here.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1082748

I know it is an ls vtec but with hondata and a ported intake mani and tb combo you can hit the same numbers with a b18c. Knife edge the crank, let a company do it who can do it good, and you can rev to like 9300 rpm and i think you will get to 210 whp.

And what is with the torque ??? Doesn't has a b18c enough torque. Do a search in the all motor section i see enough b18c's with enough power.

You can have a bottom end built for $2000 without sleeving and a head job with full valve train and valves will cost you about $1500 so you only missing a pair of cams so for $4000 you there.

 

Even if you dont want to put forged internals with rods. You can build an oem bottem end that can net you the 12.0-12.5 comperssion. Once you have that, its time to build your head which, you should go all out, Porting, 3 angle valve job, valvetrain, cams, intake manifold, Throttle body etc. This is where you will get your power from. You are going to need a tranny with atleast an oem lsd to help you go down the 1320 in faster times. o and one last thing, its all in the tuning.... You will spend more than 3500 if you want it reliable and fast.

 

ttt

 

do a search under the username "omniman"
he used gsr crank/rods in a b20 block with b20z pistons.
if you go his route, you won't spend too much money versus resleeving/custom rods/pistons, and he made well over 210 whp.

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here you go:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=595138

 

Thanks for the link

 

I Edited the 1st Post w/ an update on what i would get if i went the B20 Route.

 

i still would keep the b18c. But if you go the b20 route you can sell your b18c and buy a cheap b16a head and have some money left.

 

2.0 GSR for the ultimate in top end power

b20 if you have a heavier car

 

He said that if i went the 2.0L GSR route... i would have at least 240whp. Which is a GREAT thing. But costs $5000

 

Go somewhere else for your built !!! At least 240whp ??? I don't think so.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rev limiter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Go somewhere else for your built !!! At least 240whp ??? I don't think so.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what do you mean elsewhere?? Is 240whp a low number or is that high??

 

240 WHP IS HIGH.... anyhow i would go b20vtec..alot easier too get over 200 whp.. some forged pistons...maybe 12.1 cr or so... bd4 cams, some omni or rocket valvetrain, cam gears, dtr header, try checkin out the sparks racing rods they are only 225 shipped that right there is round 2700 almost..before build things like new bearings, water pump, oil pump , headgasket, timing belt, arp headstuds and a intake manifold

 

What i mean the person who sais that is full of ****. Come one he said AT LEAST 240 whp. There are people on this board with completly built b18c's which cost them about 3 times your budget and they are barley making 240 whp.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rev limiter &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What i mean the person who sais that is full of ****. Come one he said AT LEAST 240 whp. There are people on this board with completly built b18c's which cost them about 3 times your budget and they are barley making 240 whp.</TD></TR></TABLE>

OO okay.... i c what you mean

 

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