I was going through th engine oil archives and read that oil starvation can cause the car to drop out of vtec when cornering, see Robs (Bbasso) comment:
https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1

I was out in my Teg Type-R on Friday on "performance driving day" for guys with Lotus's with the Honda K20A engine conversions (I sneaked in with a friend).

Anyway I've been wondering what the power loss was all about when I exited a corner after taking it very hard. The motor seemed like it had lost power. I might have been in 2nd gear (vtec mode) when I exited I think thats when I lost power because as I shifted up into 3rd there was no increase in power so I thought it might be a tranny faliure. After a second or so (seemed like forever) of worry and frantically trying to engage the tranny I got power and everything was alright again.

Is an oil surge the most likely cause of this incident?

 

welcome to h-t, where people flame you for starting multiple threads on the same subject.

 

the oil level was most likely low.

check the level and make sure it is at (or slightly above) the upper dot.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">check the level and make sure it is at (or slightly above) the upper dot.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Mugen oil pan

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the oil level was most likely low.

check the level and make sure it is at (or slightly above) the upper dot.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No the oil level was perfect, I only had an oil change 2 weeks ago and I checked the oil when I got back home from the event when the engine had cooled down.




Modified by Fink2iCe at 4:58 PM 12/12/2004

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Willard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the oil level was most likely low.

check the level and make sure it is at (or slightly above) the upper dot.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I vote for fuel starvation. I get it if I ever get down to a half tank of gas.

How much power did you lose? How rough was it running?

 

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I vote for fuel starvation. I get it if I ever get down to a half tank of gas.

How much power did you lose? How rough was it running?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Fuel starvation with half a tank? That's odd. You know what? I was on half a tank when that happened..

It wasn't running rough at all. The engine was running, but the revs were dropping as if I was not giving it any gas.

 

Ssounds like fuel starvation to me too. The exact same thing happens to me at Little Talladega making a right hand turn with some elevation changes. I had between 1/4 -1/2 a tank when it happened I was accelerating and then I oculd hear the engine run but the revs dropped about a grand and then I was pretty much out of the turn and started accelerating again. Scared me a bit for a few laps until I realized what was going on and pitted and added more gas.
Stupid sloshing fuel

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Fuel starvation with half a tank? That's odd. You know what? I was on half a tank when that happened..

It wasn't running rough at all. The engine was running, but the revs were dropping as if I was not giving it any gas.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

I have never seen fuel starvation on track, even with the gas light glowing bright orange in the turns.

 

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= you are slow.

thru T2 at VIR... (showing ~1/4 tank) = cuts out till I straighten up for the entry to T3.

 

showing 1/4 tank while stopped or in turn? when the lite is on in turns, it will register over 1/4 tank in the padd0ck

 

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I am teh suXor. Meant to say, less than half a tank. 1/2 (at rest/straightaway) is OK, but anything less I starve on long corners. It shows up first on carousels.

 

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You must be going slow to look at the gauges in a turn.

 

j00 must be a n00b if j00 cant

 

I had the kaa actually cut off on me in the middle of T2 at Roebling Road once due to fuel starvation I let it sit for a sec and it cranked right back up. There was ~1/4 tank indicated. That's when I learned to buy a 5qt gas can and fill that up for topping off on the last session of the day.

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sitting still it showed a little under 1/4 tank. thru T1 and T2 (both right handers) the light comes on (sometimes) but the car cuts out there (nowhere else on that track)... i have the video.

 

I havent taken it out that low on gas yet

 

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I know you're right.

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Ha, I fill up 3 times in a day. I can't make 2 full sessions without fuel starvation at the end of the 2nd one. I use 3.5-4.5 gallons on a full session. (My car is thirstier than most, tuned to 11.5:1)

-Chris