Swapping A H23 with a H22 what small Performance upgrades can i DO
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Swapping A H23 with a H22 what small Performance upgrades can i DO
What other small performance upgrades can i go for coz im taking the engine out anyway...and if i get the stuff in my freinds container from japan what other stuff should i chuck in there ? I am in australia btw 
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Re: Swapping A H23 with a H22 what small Performance upgrades can i DO (OzWolfbane)
You should start with bolt-ons like an intake, a header, and a cat-back exhaust system and build on from there depending on how much money you have
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Re: Swapping A H23 with a H22 what small Performance upgrades can i DO (PRCLude98)
Hondata IM gasket.
Upgraded clutch.
H23 manual tensioner conversion.
Regular bolt-ons.
If he has some extra money to spend, get a nice flowing
header and a nice engine management system
Upgraded clutch.
H23 manual tensioner conversion.
Regular bolt-ons.
If he has some extra money to spend, get a nice flowing
header and a nice engine management system
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Re: Swapping A H23 with a H22 what small Performance upgrades can i DO (SKDRCR)
I have a high Flow Exaust, I am thinking of a cold air intake....hows this ? where does the airfilter go though? Anyone have pics of one installed ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT
How are these rotors as mine are farked :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT
What does these do :
Hondata IM gasket.
H23 manual tensioner conversion
what good stuff can be had for cheap in japan ?
thanks
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT
How are these rotors as mine are farked :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT
What does these do :
Hondata IM gasket.
H23 manual tensioner conversion
what good stuff can be had for cheap in japan ?
thanks
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Re: Swapping A H23 with a H22 what small Performance upgrades can i DO (OzWolfbane)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OzWolfbane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hows this ? where does the airfilter go though? Anyone have pics of one installed ?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT</TD></TR></TABLE>
Uhhhh no, I wouldn't buy that.
You can find a cheap ebay intake for 15-20 dollars
and just buy a K&N filter for it.
That's your best bet.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OzWolfbane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What does these do : Hondata IM gasket. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Cools the temperature of the air going into the motor
and is an easy modification to do with the motor out of the car.
Just make sure you re-torque them like the instructions say
after the motor is ran for 30 minutes.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OzWolfbane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
H23 manual tensioner conversion</TD></TR></TABLE>
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=549516
Also, grab a beer, and read up on all the info here
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=689805
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT</TD></TR></TABLE>
Uhhhh no, I wouldn't buy that.
You can find a cheap ebay intake for 15-20 dollars
and just buy a K&N filter for it.
That's your best bet.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OzWolfbane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What does these do : Hondata IM gasket. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Cools the temperature of the air going into the motor
and is an easy modification to do with the motor out of the car.
Just make sure you re-torque them like the instructions say
after the motor is ran for 30 minutes.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OzWolfbane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
H23 manual tensioner conversion</TD></TR></TABLE>
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=549516
Also, grab a beer, and read up on all the info here
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=689805
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Re: Swapping A H23 with a H22 what small Performance upgrades can i DO (OzWolfbane)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OzWolfbane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
How are these rotors as mine are farked :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT
What does these do :
Hondata IM gasket.
H23 manual tensioner conversion
what good stuff can be had for cheap in japan ?
thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>
don't bother with the cross drilled rotors, just get replacement OE rotors.
cheap stuff in japan? hmm. maybe some of the nice stuff from mugen, spoon, or others can be had for a little cheaper in japan, but something tells me not that much cheaper. JDM pieces would be cheap in japan i'm sure.
as far as cheaper performance mods, pullies & intake are about the only ones worth your time. maybe a VAFC if there's a dyno near you.
How are these rotors as mine are farked :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...%3AIT
What does these do :
Hondata IM gasket.
H23 manual tensioner conversion
what good stuff can be had for cheap in japan ?
thanks
</TD></TR></TABLE>don't bother with the cross drilled rotors, just get replacement OE rotors.
cheap stuff in japan? hmm. maybe some of the nice stuff from mugen, spoon, or others can be had for a little cheaper in japan, but something tells me not that much cheaper. JDM pieces would be cheap in japan i'm sure.
as far as cheaper performance mods, pullies & intake are about the only ones worth your time. maybe a VAFC if there's a dyno near you.
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how does a gasket cools air 
, and can u just tell me what the tensioner does coz i have no idea that thread was to technical for me...why whats wrong with cross drilled ? and i was more concerned that they are so cheap maybe quality is ***** ? will i have to change the pads too ?
, and can u just tell me what the tensioner does coz i have no idea that thread was to technical for me...why whats wrong with cross drilled ? and i was more concerned that they are so cheap maybe quality is ***** ? will i have to change the pads too ?
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Re: (OzWolfbane)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OzWolfbane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how does a gasket cools air </TD></TR></TABLE>
http://www.hondata.com/heatshield.html
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OzWolfbane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
, and can u just tell me what the tensioner does coz i have no idea that thread was to technical for me.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's basically an insurance policy.
The h22a auto tensioner has a tendancy to fail especially
if you rev your motor high in the rpm band.
If the autotensioner fails, yourtiming belt could possibily skip a tooth,
then your motors toast.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OzWolfbane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">..why whats wrong with cross drilled ? and i was more concerned that they are so cheap maybe quality is ***** ? will i have to change the pads too ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
They have a tendancy to crack, waste of money IMO.
</TD></TR></TABLE>http://www.hondata.com/heatshield.html
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OzWolfbane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
, and can u just tell me what the tensioner does coz i have no idea that thread was to technical for me.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's basically an insurance policy.
The h22a auto tensioner has a tendancy to fail especially
if you rev your motor high in the rpm band.
If the autotensioner fails, yourtiming belt could possibily skip a tooth,
then your motors toast.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OzWolfbane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">..why whats wrong with cross drilled ? and i was more concerned that they are so cheap maybe quality is ***** ? will i have to change the pads too ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
They have a tendancy to crack, waste of money IMO.
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Ok I saw an engine....its been sitting there for a year, is dirty and the solenoids the small cylindrical thingies are all rusted ,93,000 Kms...he wants 1800, Shd i buy it ? and also its automatic i have manual ..will it fit ? also can my curent A/C fit on that car as he is selling without A/C....what shd i check...he'll compression test in front of me...what shd be the data for that ?
About the auto tensioner, i am a complete noob mechanicALLy so what should i be telling my mechanic ? and the heatshield sounds good...just gotta find one in australia or ebay....so thats a definite no on the slotted/drilled rotors ?
About the auto tensioner, i am a complete noob mechanicALLy so what should i be telling my mechanic ? and the heatshield sounds good...just gotta find one in australia or ebay....so thats a definite no on the slotted/drilled rotors ?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OzWolfbane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok I saw an engine....its been sitting there for a year, is dirty and the solenoids the small cylindrical thingies are all rusted ,93,000 Kms...he wants 1800, Shd i buy it ? and also its automatic i have manual ..will it fit ? also can my curent A/C fit on that car as he is selling without A/C....what shd i check...he'll compression test in front of me...what shd be the data for that ?
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no,.... look here http://www.hmotorsonline.com
much better deal than that
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OzWolfbane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
About the auto tensioner, i am a complete noob mechanicALLy so what should i be telling my mechanic ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
You might as well skip this one until you study up a little more
on your motor.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OzWolfbane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and the heatshield sounds good...just gotta find one in australia or ebay</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can find them on this website in the Performance section
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no,.... look here http://www.hmotorsonline.com
much better deal than that
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OzWolfbane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
About the auto tensioner, i am a complete noob mechanicALLy so what should i be telling my mechanic ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
You might as well skip this one until you study up a little more
on your motor.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OzWolfbane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
and the heatshield sounds good...just gotta find one in australia or ebay</TD></TR></TABLE>
You can find them on this website in the Performance section
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im in australia btw its not 1800US....so disregard the price and gimme ur opinion 
My mechanic would know about the auto tensioner thing coz hes a honda dealarship mech...what do i tell him to do and he shd do it
My mechanic would know about the auto tensioner thing coz hes a honda dealarship mech...what do i tell him to do and he shd do it
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SKDRCR:
Did you do the h23 tensioner conversion yourself or did you take it somewhere to get done? I'm in desperate need of the conversion and I don't trust too many people around here.
Did you do the h23 tensioner conversion yourself or did you take it somewhere to get done? I'm in desperate need of the conversion and I don't trust too many people around here.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by uncle »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SKDRCR:
Did you do the h23 tensioner conversion yourself or did you take it somewhere to get done? I'm in desperate need of the conversion and I don't trust too many people around here.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I did it myself with no previous timing belt
experience on this motor.
If you follow 2point6's write-up step by step,
it's pretty simple
Did you do the h23 tensioner conversion yourself or did you take it somewhere to get done? I'm in desperate need of the conversion and I don't trust too many people around here.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I did it myself with no previous timing belt
experience on this motor.
If you follow 2point6's write-up step by step,
it's pretty simple
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Re: (OzWolfbane)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OzWolfbane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so thats a definite no on the slotted/drilled rotors ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The drilled rotors crack, but the slotted have a purpose. The gases and junk get cleaned off the rotor. I think... correct me if im wrong 
The drilled rotors crack, but the slotted have a purpose. The gases and junk get cleaned off the rotor. I think... correct me if im wrong
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aboh6leenz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The drilled rotors crack, but the slotted have a purpose. The gases and junk get cleaned off the rotor. I think... correct me if im wrong </TD></TR></TABLE>
NONE of us need to worry about the gases caused by HARD braking. 99.9% of us never take our cars to the track so you don't have to worry about this. I take my car to the track 3-5 times a year and I still use blanks. I have NO ISSUES with braking.
Cross-drilled AND slotted are a waste of money. They are popular among the "wannabe racers" so that they car show their friends that they drive a racecar, yet it never sees a second on the track.
People who only use them on the streetZZZ are actually making their braking power WORSE because you have less surface area on the rotors that the pads can use to help stop the car. It also makes the pads wear unevenly.
Sorry, I get a little heated when i hear people recommend parts they have no knowledge about.
Rule of thumb. Anyone who recommends big brake kits and slotted/drilled rotors to someone without asking if the poster is a competitive tracker has NO IDEA what he is talking about.
The drilled rotors crack, but the slotted have a purpose. The gases and junk get cleaned off the rotor. I think... correct me if im wrong
</TD></TR></TABLE>NONE of us need to worry about the gases caused by HARD braking. 99.9% of us never take our cars to the track so you don't have to worry about this. I take my car to the track 3-5 times a year and I still use blanks. I have NO ISSUES with braking.
Cross-drilled AND slotted are a waste of money. They are popular among the "wannabe racers" so that they car show their friends that they drive a racecar, yet it never sees a second on the track.
People who only use them on the streetZZZ are actually making their braking power WORSE because you have less surface area on the rotors that the pads can use to help stop the car. It also makes the pads wear unevenly.
Sorry, I get a little heated when i hear people recommend parts they have no knowledge about.
Rule of thumb. Anyone who recommends big brake kits and slotted/drilled rotors to someone without asking if the poster is a competitive tracker has NO IDEA what he is talking about.
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ok enuf hijack
Heres my Qs again :
Ok I saw an engine....its been sitting there for a year, is dirty and the solenoids the small cylindrical thingies are all rusted ,93,000 Kms...he wants 1800 AUS $ , Shd i buy it ? and also its automatic i have manual ..will it fit ? also can my curent A/C fit on that car as he is selling without A/C....what shd i check...he'll compression test in front of me...what shd be the data for that ?
About the auto tensioner, i am a complete noob mechanicALLy so what should i be telling my mechanic ? and the heatshield sounds good...just gotta find one in australia or ebay....so thats a definite no on the slotted/drilled rotors ?
Heres my Qs again :
Ok I saw an engine....its been sitting there for a year, is dirty and the solenoids the small cylindrical thingies are all rusted ,93,000 Kms...he wants 1800 AUS $ , Shd i buy it ? and also its automatic i have manual ..will it fit ? also can my curent A/C fit on that car as he is selling without A/C....what shd i check...he'll compression test in front of me...what shd be the data for that ?
About the auto tensioner, i am a complete noob mechanicALLy so what should i be telling my mechanic ? and the heatshield sounds good...just gotta find one in australia or ebay....so thats a definite no on the slotted/drilled rotors ?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by OzWolfbane »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok enuf hijack
Heres my Qs again :
Ok I saw an engine....its been sitting there for a year, is dirty and the solenoids the small cylindrical thingies are all rusted ,93,000 Kms...he wants 1800 AUS $ , Shd i buy it ? and also its automatic i have manual ..will it fit ? also can my curent A/C fit on that car as he is selling without A/C....what shd i check...he'll compression test in front of me...what shd be the data for that ?
About the auto tensioner, i am a complete noob mechanicALLy so what should i be telling my mechanic ? and the heatshield sounds good...just gotta find one in australia or ebay....so thats a definite no on the slotted/drilled rotors ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Tell him you want to replace the auto tensioner with a manual tensioner off of an h23.
You do not need drilled/slotted rotors.
Heres my Qs again :
Ok I saw an engine....its been sitting there for a year, is dirty and the solenoids the small cylindrical thingies are all rusted ,93,000 Kms...he wants 1800 AUS $ , Shd i buy it ? and also its automatic i have manual ..will it fit ? also can my curent A/C fit on that car as he is selling without A/C....what shd i check...he'll compression test in front of me...what shd be the data for that ?
About the auto tensioner, i am a complete noob mechanicALLy so what should i be telling my mechanic ? and the heatshield sounds good...just gotta find one in australia or ebay....so thats a definite no on the slotted/drilled rotors ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Tell him you want to replace the auto tensioner with a manual tensioner off of an h23.
You do not need drilled/slotted rotors.
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ah ok thanks :
I saw an engine....its been sitting there for a year, is dirty and the solenoids the small cylindrical thingies are all rusted ,93,000 Kms...he wants 1800 AUS $ , Shd i buy it ? and also its automatic i have manual ..will it fit ? also can my curent A/C fit on that car as he is selling without A/C....what shd i check...he'll compression test in front of me...what shd be the data for that ?
I saw an engine....its been sitting there for a year, is dirty and the solenoids the small cylindrical thingies are all rusted ,93,000 Kms...he wants 1800 AUS $ , Shd i buy it ? and also its automatic i have manual ..will it fit ? also can my curent A/C fit on that car as he is selling without A/C....what shd i check...he'll compression test in front of me...what shd be the data for that ?
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