How to I acchieve this goal. I have a JDM H22A with a port and polish, Crower springs and retainers, lightend flywheel with a Centerforce dual friction clutch, intake, exhaust, and riced out header. I know I need cams but dont know what kind to get. was thinking Crower stage 2's. What should I get to reach my goal and make it streetable.

 

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not alot of 250 whp NA h22's out there. Are there even any? the highest i've seen is ~240 whp and i believe it was on 100+ octane.

to get 250 you're going to have to up your cr. crower stage 2's sound appropriate. need a new header assuming your riced out one is a DC/DC copy. ITB's. pullies would help. one hell of an engine management system, and an even more amazing tuner.

 

You'll never get 250 "daily driven" out of an H22 all motor. Track car, maybe.

You're talking 12+ compression, at least Crower Stage 3's or custom grinds, 8,500 rpms, totally built bottom end with a little more displacement. ITB's, stand alone fuel management, etc.

A few years ago, Mark Brauning was at around 260 in his fully built race motor.

Expect to spend upwards of $10,000 on just the motor when all is said and done.

 

lots of $ https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1010457

 

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umm not if he goes forced induction route.

 

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FI is not NA, though. With a turbo, everything changes....

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ohh i missed the NA part...then hes crazy....hes never gonna get it, and have it be sreetable.

 

Probably wouldn't be hard if you consider nitrous. You could have a daily driver in the high 100s, and then get your 250+ when you crack open the bottle.

 

I had to step in here, because there is a bunch of BS being spread. 250whp is attainable, streetable, reliable, and able to be driven on 91 octane. I do it daily. It does cost a bit, but any h22 build (if done right) costs...

Too bad that Endyne engine was only pulling 228+ whp on a dynojet and blew shortly after.

 

it can be done, and it could be reliable, but it would have to be really great tuned! its still a hard task.

 

id like to see what he would run

 

It will be extremely hard and expensive. I think you should go for it. Start by doing a lot of research. Who will be doing the work? Get a better header like prospeed or smsp.

 

lol, you guys think it is that hard to get 250whp out of a 2.2L? I made 200whp in mine with just a intake/header/chip/fpr/throttle body and free port matching, never even took off the valve cover. Another guy that circuit races his car at the dyno I go to made 240whp with a fast standalone, cams/ported head, valves springs retainers and other misc bolt ons, he still had a BONE stock 2.2L bottem end. I think you can make up to a 260-270hp N/A h22 easily

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmcivicferio &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol, you guys think it is that hard to get 250whp out of a 2.2L? I made 200whp in mine with just a intake/header/chip/fpr/throttle body and free port matching, never even took off the valve cover. Another guy that circuit races his car at the dyno I go to made 240whp with a fast standalone, cams/ported head, valves springs retainers and other misc bolt ons, he still had a BONE stock 2.2L bottem end. I think you can make up to a 260-270hp N/A h22 easily </TD></TR></TABLE>

I dont know about easily but yes it can be done ,

 

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You sell all that **** and buy a real sports car, or your set realistic goals; a 250 hp NA motor won't "streetable" much less tolerable to drive on a daily basis. Instead of making power, why don't you make your car lighter; same net effect (eg, better power to weight ratio) without creating a nightmare situation with respect to reliability.

 

NOS is cheating

But i think 200whp is very realistic like civicferio was saying.. you don't even need to take off the valve cover to do that. i would say 230whp is a more realistic goal unless you want big time expenses.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmcivicferio &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol, you guys think it is that hard to get 250whp out of a 2.2L? I made 200whp in mine with just a intake/header/chip/fpr/throttle body and free port matching, never even took off the valve cover. Another guy that circuit races his car at the dyno I go to made 240whp with a fast standalone, cams/ported head, valves springs retainers and other misc bolt ons, he still had a BONE stock 2.2L bottem end. I think you can make up to a 260-270hp N/A h22 easily </TD></TR></TABLE>

it's not impossible to get 250 whp on a 2.2L engine, but i wouldn't call it easy. if it was, don't you think we'd all have 270 whp NA ludes?

putting down 200 whp is one thing. 270 is a lot more money and effort. law of diminishing returns.

not busting your *****, but what would be your blueprint for a 270 whp lude?
i'm thinking it'd look alot like:
12.5:1 cr
ITB's
I/H/E/P/Test pipe
crower stage 3's
Standalone like AEM/Motec
full engine balancing

that's 10,000 dollars of work right there, if not more.

 

ANYTHING can be done with anough green.....

 

I am planning on getting crower stage 2's and looking into ITB's and an standalone fuel management system. I want to keep my bottem end stock. If 240 hp is more realistic, thats fine. I want to get colse to the 250 mark without sleeving my block and putting in different pistons.

 

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have fun getting maybe 220 then.

or...more, but then your engine going to hell shortly after.

 

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a 250 hp NA motor won't "streetable" much less tolerable to drive on a daily basis.
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Tell me why not? Mine is... No offense but don't talk unless you have done it. I hate people giving missinformation based on hearsay. "Experience makes the man."

 

Why do you say that the motor will go to hell shortly there after? Has yours done it? Or are you just going by hear-say?

 

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Are you asking me? My engine is fine. Thanks

 

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Are you asking me? My engine is fine. Thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>

I think he was talking to 00ludelover.

Your motor is one of a kind anyway.

 

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Your motor is one of a kind anyway.</TD></TR></TABLE>

SO YOU ARE CALLING ME A FREAK? lol.