i had valve job done and replaced all gaskets seals timing belt water pump plugs wires rotor. i finally started it up today it ran well. but i had a jumpy tach so i got a new coil. first i put in my new axle then changed the coil. the car now doesnt crank at all the brake lite stays on and the top 2 left cluster lites are extremly dim. so i put the old coil in that i know starts the car and its the same thing. so i replace starter and i get same results. i notice the fule pump doesnt prime but the radio headlites ect all work. im completely frustrated its been a month long project and help u guys can offer would be great

 

Did something silly like a ground wire come loose? Even something that might have been loosend and not quite tightened from the first round of work? Maybe the ground that goes to the frame above the drivers headlight and splits on the valve cover?

 

grounds ar ok. cant figure this out for the life of me

 

help

 

If your fuel pump doesnt prime it may be your main relay..
punch the relay with a and try and start the car..

 

it doesn't crank, or it doesn't start. if it is turning over and not starting make sure the the rotor is still screwed into the dizzy. i had this problem once and the damn screw fell out of the rotor.

 

main relay is behind the hood latch correct

 

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I think u said it doesnt CRANK at all. IF thats the case, check the ground from the tranny to frame. Clean the mounting points and make sure its tight. Check the resistance if u can. NEXT, check the battery connections. Again, clean the posts and make sure they are tight. You can also try a good known battery, if the above fails.

 

grounds are all good. i checked voltage from the starter to the terminal n main fuse box under hood and im only getting 12 volts there. also i tried jumping from battery positive to the black connector on the starter...with no keys in the ignition it beeps like i juted turned ignition on and the car still wont crank

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fourthgenhatchB17 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think u said it doesnt CRANK at all. IF thats the case, check the ground from the tranny to frame. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually in that event it would crank, and then start the ground wire on fire.

Been there, done that.

 

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Actually in that event it would crank, and then start the ground wire on fire.

Been there, done that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have too. Go out and try to start your car without that specific ground. In my case, nothing caught on fire...lol...it just wouldnt crank. You would also get funny lights illuminationg on the cluster while tryin to crank (as in its searching for a ground). How can it start a ground wire on fire if (A) it has bad connections or (B) its missing ?

 

if u have 200+ amps runing though a little 18 gauge wire only caring a few amps at max uhh YEA if it won't cach onfire, it will melt and or burn u or any other hoses or wires near it.

 

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Right after we swapped a dx motor into a car, just to get it running, it had a bad ground connection so he cranked it and the wire got hot, started melting, then smoke started creeping up the wire. Thats kinda what I meant when I said it started fire.

 

do you get any check engine lights? tell us all the items you fiddled with for any reason at all since the last time it ran.

have someone sit in the car with the clutch in, key held in the start position.. jump the started solenoid manually with 12V either from the batt or from the hot wire on the starter motor. if nothing, take the starter out and have autozone or whoever run it on their machine.. replace if need be.

somehow, i dont think its the starter though. fuel pump is tied to pgmfi-main relay which gets signal from ecu. faulty relay, faulty ecu, faulty ecu ground, main relay ground, etc. mess with any of that stuff?

 

since the last time it ran i put a new axle in it and changed the coil cuz of a jump tach but once the car didnt start i put the old coil back in

 

ok i messed with th trans ground and now the starter only kicks over after i turn the key 4 or 5 times, and it only kicks for a second, i jumped from batter positive to the solenoid terminal and it cranks fine but wont start. also when i turn on the head lites they dont work and all interior lites come on and the coolant temp guage pegs hot

 

help i drive from arizona to ct in this heap on dec 4th!!!!!

 

is your fuel pump priming now? let us know.

 

fp is priming

 

Wait a min, you said you had a jumpy tach and replaced your coil. I think you got it confused with the ignitor. Usually when you have an irratic tach it means your ignitor is taking a dump. What I think happened is your ignitor finally gave up and replacing your coil has no affect at all. Replace your ignitor, that could very well fix your problem. hth

 

Yep, check the ignitor.
Also, with the starter giving you problems...Im going through the same thing....but mine is a crappy ground on the negative terminal on the battery. I see corrosion all on it. Clean your grounds.

 

i have the old coil back in there and i am getting spark and fuel