since the immobilizer needs the key, how are you able to start the car without the key if you use a PRB (K20A2 type s) ecu? And can you justuse a PRC (K20A type r) ecu and not have to worry about the immobilizer at all?

 

been covered before - all you had to do was search but I will tell you anyways

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by akaEsCo01 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">since the immobilizer needs the key, how are you able to start the car without the key if you use a PRB (K20A2 type s) ecu?</TD></TR></TABLE>

have a honda dealer reflash the ECU & remove the immobilizer function or send it to hondata & they can do it (for probably cheaper than dealer). Either places will require full documentation of the ECU & dealership will most likely require documentation of the motor too - NOTE: not all dealerships "know" the can reflash the immobilizer function out of the ECU

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by akaEsCo01 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And can you justuse a PRC (K20A type r) ecu and not have to worry about the immobilizer at all?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes - but its not gauranteed your motor will run as well as it would with a stock ECU since it will have incorrect fuel & timing maps & the PRC ecu will think you are running 100+ octane gas

...my advice...save for K-pro & get your **** tuned. People have gained ~20whp & ~20 tq with K-pro on a (stock) motor with I/H/E

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adirondackR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...my advice...save for K-pro & get your **** tuned. People have gained ~20whp & ~20 tq with K-pro on a (stock) motor with I/H/E</TD></TR></TABLE>

wouldn't a k100 chip for a PRC be the same as getting tuned with a k pro?

 

no - k-pro is fully programmable. K100 is not. if you make a modification later on you cannot adjust your currect program (with k100)...you'd have to get another flash program uploaded. Chances are there would not be a flash program out there that specifically fits your car & its mods.

K-pro you could adjust you current program or upload a new flash program & then modify it so its custom tailored to your car.

NOTE - this is what I believe from reading info on hondata's website. I am in NO WAY SHAPE or FORM a hondata expert.

see http://www.hondata.com/k100.html vs. http://www.hondata.com/kprorelease.html

quote from hondata's website
"Who is the k100 for?

Similar to the s100 for earlier Hondas, the k100 is for people who do not need datalogging or the ability to alter the parameters inside their own ECU."

 

Like the s100, the k100 is fully tunable by any Hondata dealer. IT has the same tunability as the K-Pro, but is not adjustable by the user, only the dealer can make changes.

 

K-PRO IS THE ****!

 

thanks for the info, i'm gonna do the k100 because i will never be making any changes on my own for the most part