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Do I need to lower to get better suspension?

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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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Default Do I need to lower to get better suspension?

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I always see, what is the better drop for new sprins, and it tends to be 1.5 front and 1.3 or less back... WELLLL.....

Isn't there a good performance spring/total suspension that retains stock ride height? I live in a place with snow and lots of bumps.... going from stock 5 inch? to 4 or less is not something I think I can do..

If there isn't anything like that, is the Eibach Pro kit worth it over stock, and do I need to adjust anything in the rest of the suspension? since it is lower.

My car is a EJ8 if it matters for this.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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well, the idea of lowering your car increases handling, and lowers your center of gravity. so buying aftermarket springs that keep you at stock ride hieght would just defeat that whole purpose. Honda does make aftermarket performance springs that are very close to stock ride height. just drop your car and take it slow over the bumps and you should be good. you dont have anything to worry about unless you're auto x'n your car.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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Default Re: Do I need to lower to get better suspension? (CooBlueDAB)

there are plenty of good spring companies that make mild drops. tokico and eibach for instance. H&R also makes a nice spring. i would also recommend upgrade to some better struts when doing this to avoid blowing your stock ones.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 08:10 PM
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well suppose I want to auto-X lol.... I like my clearance, you dont seem to understand, this is ohio, ... there are roads here where the weight of cars and semis lower the road so much that there is a low point groove for wheels, and high in the middle, that go up 5 or more inches in places... slow or fast doesnt matter around here. The roads are generally bad, and I drive EVERYWHERE... So I need to be prepared

Better suspension at stock height is still good though, stiffer, or more responsive etc... I already know a roll bar in the rear is going to help, but whenever I do suspension, I want the whole package.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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maybe look into a set of full coilovers, such as omnipowers or tien. that way you can have your cake and eat it too
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lohatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">maybe look into a set of full coilovers, such as omnipowers or tien. that way you can have your cake and eat it too</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by umaagon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">buying aftermarket springs that keep you at stock ride hieght would just defeat that whole purpose.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not necessessarily. I bought Tein SSP's and am keeping the stock height. The fact that the spring rates are probably twice what the stock ones are will still give better handling characteristics.

-Shane
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:46 AM
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sounds like u need a lift kit for those roads
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 06:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CooBlueDAB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well suppose I want to auto-X lol.... I like my clearance, you dont seem to understand, this is ohio, ... there are roads here where the weight of cars and semis lower the road so much that there is a low point groove for wheels, and high in the middle, that go up 5 or more inches in places... slow or fast doesnt matter around here. The roads are generally bad, and I drive EVERYWHERE... So I need to be prepared</TD></TR></TABLE>

You'll be fine with the ProKit, I'm running that setup with KYB AGX shocks right now. You'll need to upgrade your shocks to handle the higher spring rates; although I know some will say that they've done it on stock for x amount of time or whatever, blah, blah, blah.

I drive all over NY and NE, including Boston, NYC and all the highway and rural routes in between. Never had a problem, and it's good for track days as well. If I had the cash, I would go with Koni Yellows with GC coilovers if I was to do it again.

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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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If you insist on keeping your stock ride height, spend the extra money for some ground control coilover springs & collers. If you order them directly from Ground Control, you discuss your situation with them and they will send you the perfect lengths & rates to fit Your driving...

Then when you decide to Auto X, you can lower that SOB at the course, with the ease of a jack and an alen wrench (its Super Simple and takes 1 min per corner), raise it up when your done.

Just my $.02
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 07:46 AM
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Default Re: Do I need to lower to get better suspension? (CooBlueDAB)

If you want to do well at auto X but can't really lower your car because of the roads, go with the biggest set of swaybars you can find for your car. That will give you a substantial increase in handling abilities and without detriment to ride. You may want to look into poly bushings as well for the car to help increase handling. Lastly it is possible to find performance springs that lower your car less than an inch to keep a mostly stock ride height but with stiffer rates. It's always a good idea to upgrade your shocks with the springs, not because they will blow out, but because they will be better matched to the higher rate springs making your car handle predictibly without a lot of bounce.
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