Would LS tranny be a bad choice for b16?
I bought a LS cable tranny (YS1) off a guy at another forum and figured it would be a GSR one (bad move). All he said was it's an Acura Integra tranny w/ no grinds. I bought it off him and I just asked him what model it came off of. He said it was from a LS. I wanted a short geared tranny, but now I'm stuck with this. How bad is the LS tranny for a b16?
is going to slow you down, and i figured it out once using a gear ratio calculator that on the 1st to 2nd gear change you will fall out of v-tec. if you race what so ever you will want a different tranny.
first off do you have a light weight flywheel?
if you do then my theory is you want a longer geared tranny with a high and fast revving engine, and my basis for this theory is my cousins car. He has a B16a with a light weight flywheel and a type r tranny, he burns through the gears to quickly and doesn't get as much power as possible, so now he bought a ls tranny and is gonna put it in, if you want i can let you know how it turns out.
you can e-mail me at dnlsls7191@hotmail.com
if you do then my theory is you want a longer geared tranny with a high and fast revving engine, and my basis for this theory is my cousins car. He has a B16a with a light weight flywheel and a type r tranny, he burns through the gears to quickly and doesn't get as much power as possible, so now he bought a ls tranny and is gonna put it in, if you want i can let you know how it turns out.
you can e-mail me at dnlsls7191@hotmail.com
no lightweight flywheel here. But yeah, let me know how it turns out. I posted my tranny up for sale in the classifieds.
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The problem with the LS transmission on said Rev-happy B16 is the fact that the spacing of the gears lets the revs drop enough that VTEC will disengage at certain shifts. If you though are interested in freeway driving, you can always remove the LS 5th gear and add that later to a shorter geared transmission for good cruising RPMS.
dropping out of vtec between shifts is not a bad thing, thats what honda designed the vtec for, a smaller cam runs better at lower revs while the bigger cam makes more power on the top. if the changeover is in the right spot there shouldnt be a loss or gain in power at the changeover. the ls tranny is a bad one, just change the diff to a nice lsd and change the final drive to better fit your car.
if you're going for forced induction then keep the ls tranny! but for NA definitely go with the shorter gears and just get a ls final drive for the b16.
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Yes, the ls tranny does SUCK with a B16a
i have a 93 teg with a b16a and ls tranny
long gears...i hate 'em
i'm already starting to look for a b16 tranny but i want one from around my area
i have a 93 teg with a b16a and ls tranny
long gears...i hate 'em
i'm already starting to look for a b16 tranny but i want one from around my area
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ImportsCRX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I bought a LS cable tranny (YS1) off a guy at another forum and figured it would be a GSR one (bad move). All he said was it's an Acura Integra tranny w/ no grinds. I bought it off him and I just asked him what model it came off of. He said it was from a LS. I wanted a short geared tranny, but now I'm stuck with this. How bad is the LS tranny for a b16?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Hey man, how much would you sell me the LS cable you just bought?
Hey man, how much would you sell me the LS cable you just bought?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93 Da 16a »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, the ls tranny does SUCK with a B16a
i have a 93 teg with a b16a and ls tranny
long gears...i hate 'em
i'm already starting to look for a b16 tranny but i want one from around my area
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It does not suck as bad as u put it. Also, keep in mind that u have a DA, which is heavier than an EF. I have a B17 with a LS tranny and a friend of mine has a B16 with the LS tranny. If u drive the EF hard enough and shift right, it shouldnt fall out of vtec. I am going to be putting in a Y1 (LSD) tranny, but with its final drive, its wont be much of a difference.
i have a 93 teg with a b16a and ls tranny
long gears...i hate 'em
i'm already starting to look for a b16 tranny but i want one from around my area
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It does not suck as bad as u put it. Also, keep in mind that u have a DA, which is heavier than an EF. I have a B17 with a LS tranny and a friend of mine has a B16 with the LS tranny. If u drive the EF hard enough and shift right, it shouldnt fall out of vtec. I am going to be putting in a Y1 (LSD) tranny, but with its final drive, its wont be much of a difference.
Long gears + No torque = No fun. Has anyone ever said "Man, these super long gears in my HF really bring out those 11 ft/lbs of torque."
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oh my god, reading this post made me dumber, please do not listen to any of these dumb **** noobies, ban all 04 members damnit, don't you hate it when people educate you on the wrong thing? an ls tranny is the worst thing you can have for a b16, a motor that has no torque has to stay in its top end "curve", you will most definatley run better track times and have a car that is more fun to drive if you change the tranny to an s1 or y1 lsd, whoever said dropping out of vtec isnt bad should be shot in the head....don't listen to stupid people who don't know what they are talking about-why would you wanna fall out of tec when that is where your power is comming from??
drdisco is the only smart one in this thread
search more and you will find track times of both trannies and you decide if you want a 15 second car or a mid 14 second car, and also! having a light weight flywheel doesnt do ****, it actually slows your car down, search and you will find out more about this as well
drdisco is the only smart one in this thread
search more and you will find track times of both trannies and you decide if you want a 15 second car or a mid 14 second car, and also! having a light weight flywheel doesnt do ****, it actually slows your car down, search and you will find out more about this as well
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search more and you will find track times of both trannies and you decide if you want a 15 second car or a mid 14 second car, and also! having a light weight flywheel doesnt do ****, it actually slows your car down, search and you will find out more about this as well</TD></TR></TABLE>
isnt the theory of havinjg a light weight flywheel is the fact that the lighter the flywheel, the quicker the cars rev will go up, but you lose torque? (someone correct me if im wrong)
also, if light weight flywheels dont do ****, then why do people keep buying them?
stfu dont post if you dont know what you are talking about dumbass
search more and you will find track times of both trannies and you decide if you want a 15 second car or a mid 14 second car, and also! having a light weight flywheel doesnt do ****, it actually slows your car down, search and you will find out more about this as well</TD></TR></TABLE>
isnt the theory of havinjg a light weight flywheel is the fact that the lighter the flywheel, the quicker the cars rev will go up, but you lose torque? (someone correct me if im wrong)
also, if light weight flywheels dont do ****, then why do people keep buying them?
stfu dont post if you dont know what you are talking about dumbass
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fd3st04r »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dropping out of vtec between shifts is not a bad thing, thats what honda designed the vtec for, a smaller cam runs better at lower revs while the bigger cam makes more power on the top.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I disagree
If we are talking about drag racing, then dropping out of VTEC after each shift is a bad thing. Think of it this way: when you shift from first to second, would you rather be at 4500 RPM's with 95 WHP or 6000 RPM's with 115 WHP? Dont forget to factor in that when the car hits the VTEC x-over, then usually you have the slight dip in power for at least 500 RPM after the x-over.
Obviously the better choice is shifting so that your revs drop at 6K not 4.5K. At 6K, you are getting close to the beginning of you powerband and you dont have to worry about losing a few HP due to VTEC switch over. It doesn't matter that the "small" cam performs better at low revs then the "high" cams. Because the high cam at high rev, puts out a lot more power then the low cam at low rev, and that extra power is going to move the car a lot faster.
I disagree
If we are talking about drag racing, then dropping out of VTEC after each shift is a bad thing. Think of it this way: when you shift from first to second, would you rather be at 4500 RPM's with 95 WHP or 6000 RPM's with 115 WHP? Dont forget to factor in that when the car hits the VTEC x-over, then usually you have the slight dip in power for at least 500 RPM after the x-over.
Obviously the better choice is shifting so that your revs drop at 6K not 4.5K. At 6K, you are getting close to the beginning of you powerband and you dont have to worry about losing a few HP due to VTEC switch over. It doesn't matter that the "small" cam performs better at low revs then the "high" cams. Because the high cam at high rev, puts out a lot more power then the low cam at low rev, and that extra power is going to move the car a lot faster.
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